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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

clownboy said:
You do realize that while the South was doing slavery, the North was doing child labor and indenturement, right?
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Child labor was actually bigger in the South (at a time when it was mostly opposed in the North) because of the cotton mills in the South.

Thanks for citing yet another embarrassment for White southerners :)
 
Phys251 said:
I want to exercise my biblical right to stone my son to death when he curses me. Will you permit me my religious freedom, or will you be intolerant?
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I went to a sushi bar wearing mixed threads.
 
muciti said:
i could keep reposting the same sentence or you could just keep reading it. probablly simpler if you just read it again.
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The simply fact is, that if he just simply said he was a Christian no one would be boycotting, or not wanting to go to his business. No one is mad at him for being a Christian.

What people are upset about is his comments, and the fact that they donate money to hate groups.

That is what is happening here, so your whole argument is not based in reality, and shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
Your Star said:
The simply fact is, that if he just simply said he was a Christian no one would be boycotting, or not wanting to go to his business. No one is mad at him for being a Christian.

What people are upset about is his comments, and the fact that they donate money to hate groups.

That is what is happening here, so your whole argument is not based in reality, and shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Wow that is so polite.
 
hazlnut said:
Here's the problem, I know more about the Chick-fil-a's religion than he does.

His is a twisted, perverted version of Christianity.
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Money is the root of evil
 
muciti said:
It is his Christian belief. That belief is a religious belief.
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What if his religious belief was to push people who followed another religion into the sea?
 
ChuckBerry said:
Muppets dump Chick-Fil-A to support gay marriage - Chicago Tribune

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a statement posted on their official Facebook page.

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The Henson company, whose Muppet characters are hugely popular, said its Chief Executive Lisa Henson is a "strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD," the company said in their statement.

Chick-Fil-A has not hidden its Christian mission statement from day one, which precedes the founding of Henson's company. If Henson actually gave a damn about the issue, rather than responding to pressure and then grandstanding, they might have never chosen to associate with Chick-Fil-A at all.

It's a pity that simple symbols and characters from childhood now have to be politicized.
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Meh, I like waffle fries, so guess I'll be contributing to a company owned by a guy who openly says what he thinks, though he can't actually do anything about it, which makes this entire issue pointless.
 
Thorgasm said:
They were using Muppet toys in their kids meals.
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How much you want to bet that Chic-fil-A knew that Henson was pro-gay, and was still using their toys in the kids meals?
 
American said:
How much you want to bet that Chic-fil-A knew that Henson was pro-gay, and was still using their toys in the kids meals?
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There is no doubt about that. Chik is like most homophobic Christian groups in that their principles only matter when they can play the victim.
 
Another rumor related to Chick-fil-A that is currently in the media is related to the Jim Henson Kid's Meal prizes. We want to set the facts straight. Chick-fil-A made the choice to voluntarily withdraw the Jim Henson Kid's Meal puppets for potential safety concerns for our customers on Thursday, July 19. On July 20, Chick-fil-A was notified of the Jim Henson Company's decision to no longer partner with us on future endeavors.
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according to chick fil a.
 
A company states it doesn't like a certain group, and that's reason enough to attempt to demonize it. If the shoe is on the other foot, and certain groups tell certain companies they don't care for them it's all good, special, and wonderful. Go figure...:roll:
 
According to Kermit, Lisa Henson sold out to Doc Hopper and is planning to open a chain of fast food joints specializing in frog legs, and this is the real reason for Henson severing ties with Chick-fil-A. Not surprisingly, Kermit is severing ties with Henson.


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MaggieD said:
Where did ChickFilA's CEO say anything like this?

I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that the US has become among the most tolerant nations of the gay/lesbian lifestyle. We have a ways to go, but we're on the right path, that's for sure.
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If you think homosexuality is a lifestyle, you don't understand. You might get it at some future time, but you don't understand right now, today.
 
muciti said:
yes I do agree with that last sentence. However he is not interfering with any rights of others. Noone has the right to marry and further more he does not have the authority to make the decisions as to whether or not ssm ever happens. That is done politically and at the voting booths. Neither of which does he control. His opinion is that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. I am aware of no time has this man ever said that he did not support the legal rights of a ss couple to be equal to that of a ds couple. This IS about his religion. Look around. You have one person sitting in here stating it is because of baptists, another saying how evil baptists are, another idiot mocking religion as an imaginary man in the sky, another stating that god is petty and the list goes on and on just on this thread and you can go to other website to see even more of it. This situation, these comments and many other things are clearly bigots being intolerant of christian beliefs while at the same time being confused as to why the people that they discriminate against wont be more tolerant of them.
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He is giving money to groups that are trying to interfere with the rights of homosexuals and he is using his religion as a justification for those actions.

I havent seen anyone say that baptists are evil. I have seen someone mocking religion in this thread. One person or a few people on a political forum dont represent the vast majority of people who are boycotting. No one is boycotting the fact that he believes in god or the bible. They are boycotting his stance on SSM and who he is giving his money too.
 
Jesus says, "People shouldn't judge others because they sin differently."
 
Omgitsme said:
He is giving money to groups that are trying to interfere with the rights of homosexuals and he is using his religion as a justification for those actions.

I havent seen anyone say that baptists are evil. I have seen someone mocking religion in this thread. One person or a few people on a political forum dont represent the vast majority of people who are boycotting. No one is boycotting the fact that he believes in god or the bible. They are boycotting his stance on SSM and who he is giving his money too.
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well we are just going back and forth and neither of us is making headway. As long as this boycott is happening I am boycotting cospride.org and GLAAD My monthy donation to cos has been cancelled and I will not be attending any of their functions. In the meantime I am sure the boy scouts will enjoy the money. I have rallied and tried to help the organizations in this community bring the religous groups and the pro ssm groups together to try to get Colorados to continue to allow people to vote on ssm. So far in Colorado it has failed. I see why. When the pro ssm groups continue to fight and isolate the religious groups it only drives them apart. You believe what you'd like buddy. Thru this thread you have been far more respectful than most but the fact is most of the people who agree with you are not. They are simply ignorant. As I stated before, as long as the ssm groups and supporters want to fight and mock religion the religious are going to give the same back. The way to actually resolve this issue would be for the two sides to respectfully come together and come to an understanding. Instead you all wish to mock and belittle people based on their religion and beliefs. Do as you wish. You have that right. The exercising of that right is probably the biggest reason why ss couples cannot marry.. I understand it is not all of them who are this ignorant, but the ones who are speak the loudest and none of the others are even attempting to condemn them for their intolerance which makes it seem like they support it.
 
muciti said:
well we are just going back and forth and neither of us is making headway. As long as this boycott is happening I am boycotting cospride.org and GLAAD My monthy donation to cos has been cancelled and I will not be attending any of their functions. In the meantime I am sure the boy scouts will enjoy the money. I have rallied and tried to help the organizations in this community bring the religous groups and the pro ssm groups together to try to get Colorados to continue to allow people to vote on ssm. So far in Colorado it has failed. I see why. When the pro ssm groups continue to fight and isolate the religious groups it only drives them apart. You believe what you'd like buddy. Thru this thread you have been far more respectful than most but the fact is most of the people who agree with you are not. They are simply ignorant. As I stated before, as long as the ssm groups and supporters want to fight and mock religion the religious are going to give the same back. The way to actually resolve this issue would be for the two sides to respectfully come together and come to an understanding. Instead you all wish to mock and belittle people based on their religion and beliefs. Do as you wish. You have that right. The exercising of that right is probably the biggest reason why ss couples cannot marry.. I understand it is not all of them who are this ignorant, but the ones who are speak the loudest and none of the others are even attempting to condemn them for their intolerance which makes it seem like they support it.
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There is a huge difference between disagreeing with a persons religious belief, and disrespecting them. The simple fact is that if he didn't say anything, or give money to groups which are considered hate groups no one would be boycotting. That is the main problem, no one cares that he is a Christian, a lot of the people who won't go to Chick-Fil-A anymore because of this are Christians themselves.

Also the fact is that I'm never going to be okay with someone who says homosexuality is an abomination, and is wrong, and gives money to conversion camps. Those things are wrong, just like I'm never going to be okay with racism, or sexism. Your argument here is bunk, because you are ignoring the finer details of why people are hurt by this, and just assuming that it is anti-religious bigotry which it is not.
 
muciti said:
Oh do tell. What criminal action or civil rights violation did he make.
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None.

It has come to the point in this country that "free speech" is no longer acceptable to the "lefties" unless it's their "free speech".

This business owner has the right to give his money to whomever he chooses.
 
Billy the Kid said:
None.

It has come to the point in this country that "free speech" is no longer acceptable to the "lefties" unless it's their "free speech".

This business owner has the right to give his money to whomever he chooses.
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So does Lisa Henson, it goes both ways you know.
 
Furiounova said:
There is no doubt about that. Chik is like most homophobic Christian groups in that their principles only matter when they can play the victim.
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Or maybe they were just being businessmen.
 
American said:
Or maybe they were just being businessmen.
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About this, a smart businessman would have shut the **** up, and never said a damn thing about this issue. His job is to sell chicken to people, not comment on controversial social issues. All the controversy surrounding this is not helping Chick-Fil-A in the slightest.
 
Your Star said:
So does Lisa Henson, it goes both ways you know.
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It's just that appropriating--politicizing--characters beloved by little kids (and adults including me) is so sad.
 
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