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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

As a gay person, I will still patronize chick-fil-a. Dan Cathy feels as strongly about his values, beliefs, and convictions as I do about mine. If you as an indidual or as a group are intolerant of his values, convictions, and beliefs, how can you then expect him (or others) to be tolerant of yours?

I grew up with Bubba Cathy's kids- spent a lot of time with Bubba, Dan, and Truett as a kid. They will not compromise on their beliefs. I respect that. I can also say that while they believe homosexuality and SSM are wrong, they are not hateful people. They are kind generous people whose beliefs I do not personally agree with.

Gay people, if it is your goal to promote tolerance, you should do that.
 
Kandahar said:
Yep, it was a win/win for a while. Then the Chick-Fil-A dude decided to make some ignorant, bigoted comments and the Jim Henson Company decided it didn't want its good name associated with them.
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Everyone who owns a business has to make decisions and sounds like the Muppet Co did just that. They like it I like it for them.

As long as the "Chick dude" doesn't discriminate against gays, he can say anything he wants, IMO. Just like you can not buy from Chick dude.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Interesting how you never hear about conservatives boycotting any business for being pro gay marriage. Who are the intolerant ones here? Who are the ones that want to force you to act and think the "correct" way?
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You have got to be kidding me. Have you never heard of "One Million Moms"? They are a conservative group that has been advocating boycotts of any and all companies who support same sex marriage or gay rights in any way. Heck, look at the comments in this newsstory posted today,

Amazon CEO gives $2.5M for Wash. gay marriage law - Yahoo! News

Are you going to tell me that those aren't conservatives in the comments section saying they are no longer shopping at Amazon because of this? The last 3 or 4 months have been filled with news about boycotts from conservatives of various companies who support same sex marriage or gay rights at all, including JCPenny, Google, Oreo/Nabisco, Starbucks, the Muppets, and now Amazon. One company is being boycotted by some liberals.
 
kamikaze483 said:
As a gay person, I will still patronize chick-fil-a. Dan Cathy feels as strongly about his values, beliefs, and convictions as I do about mine. If you as an indidual or as a group are intolerant of his values, convictions, and beliefs, how can you then expect him (or others) to be tolerant of yours?
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Yep. Just like Martin Luther King should have just been more tolerant of Bull Connor and his firehoses and attack dogs. Both sides made a reasonable argument, so they should've just been respectful of each other's point of view and agreed to disagree. Right? :roll:
 
kamikaze483 said:
As a gay person, I will still patronize chick-fil-a. Dan Cathy feels as strongly about his values, beliefs, and convictions as I do about mine. If you as an indidual or as a group are intolerant of his values, convictions, and beliefs, how can you then expect him (or others) to be tolerant of yours?

I grew up with Bubba Cathy's kids- spent a lot of time with Bubba, Dan, and Truett as a kid. They will not compromise on their beliefs. I respect that. I can also say that while they believe homosexuality and SSM are wrong, they are not hateful people. They are kind generous people whose beliefs I do not personally agree with.

Gay people, if it is your goal to promote tolerance, you should do that.
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Yep a good friend of mine is gay and he said how disappointed he is at Chick-fil-A's stance, but he will continue going there to show them that being gay isn't a problem.
 
ChuckBerry said:
Muppets dump Chick-Fil-A to support gay marriage - Chicago Tribune

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a statement posted on their official Facebook page.

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The Henson company, whose Muppet characters are hugely popular, said its Chief Executive Lisa Henson is a "strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD," the company said in their statement.

Chick-Fil-A has not hidden its Christian mission statement from day one, which precedes the founding of Henson's company. If Henson actually gave a damn about the issue, rather than responding to pressure and then grandstanding, they might have never chosen to associate with Chick-Fil-A at all.

It's a pity that simple symbols and characters from childhood now have to be politicized.
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One company decides not to do business with another. It's an issue of branding and marketing, not politics.

That being said -- Homosexuality and gay rights need to stop being a 'political' issue. We need to stop seeing two points of view and come to understand that there is only one side to human rights, dignity, and fairness.
 
soccerboy22 said:
Yep a good friend of mine is gay and he said how disappointed he is at Chick-fil-A's stance, but he will continue going there to show them that being gay isn't a problem.
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It's really not ChickFilA's stance. Those stores are franchises . . . owned by individuals who have their own opinions on the subject.

Your friend is right. It shouldn't make any difference. Hell, for all we know, the CEO at McDonald's is a Nazi. There. Godwinned. ;)
 
Gardener said:
Of course, were a country star do the same thing today, the same ninnies who boycotted them would treat them like heroes.
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Of course they would. It doesn't matter that they disrespected "the President." It's that the Chicks disrespected a REPUBLICAN President
 
kamikaze483 said:
As a gay person, I will still patronize chick-fil-a. Dan Cathy feels as strongly about his values, beliefs, and convictions as I do about mine. If you as an indidual or as a group are intolerant of his values, convictions, and beliefs, how can you then expect him (or others) to be tolerant of yours?

I grew up with Bubba Cathy's kids- spent a lot of time with Bubba, Dan, and Truett as a kid. They will not compromise on their beliefs. I respect that. I can also say that while they believe homosexuality and SSM are wrong, they are not hateful people. They are kind generous people whose beliefs I do not personally agree with.

Gay people, if it is your goal to promote tolerance, you should do that.
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If more people on both sides of this argument shared this ideology they could have come together and resolved this by now. Instead they feel the need to attack each other which makes the other side attack. Reason and understanding is a far more efficient tool than anger and fighting.
 
I seriously doubt there are 1 million moms in this group but that's a good attempt. The only boycotts by cons are small fringe groups and there is no comparison to the boycotts by the mainstream liberals that includes politicians. Personally I am against boycotting anybody for their religious or political beliefs. This is a free country and if you start fearing retribution for your beliefs you have lost your freedom. These liberal boycotts in America are not much different from burning books in Nazi Germany.
 
rocket88 said:
Of course they would. It doesn't matter that they disrespected "the President." It's that the Chicks disrespected a REPUBLICAN President
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Disrespecting a Republican president is unpatriotic. Disrespecting a Democratic president is ok. Everyone knows that. Sheesh.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Your Star claimed offensive and disrespectful things were said about gays by chic CEO. All I can find is that he came out against gay marriage. Apparently she is misinformed and reactionary.
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YourStar and many others are on one side of this argument. Because these two sides can only fight anything the other side says or does is an attack.
 
rocket88 said:
Of course they would. It doesn't matter that they disrespected "the President." It's that the Chicks disrespected a REPUBLICAN President
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Patriotism can be quite the subtle thing, Rocket. Luckily for us, Sean and Rush are always there for our benefit to explain these subtleties.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I seriously doubt there are 1 million moms in this group but that's a good attempt. The only boycotts by cons are small fringe groups and there is no comparison to the boycotts by the mainstream liberals that includes politicians. Personally I am against boycotting anybody for their religious or political beliefs. This is a free country and if you start fearing retribution for your beliefs you have lost your freedom. These liberal boycotts in America are not much different from burning books in Nazi Germany.
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It's funny because most the gay people in this thread still continue to eat Chick Fil-A. What was that about mainstream liberals? :rofl
 
MaggieD said:
It's really not ChickFilA's stance. Those stores are franchises . . . owned by individuals who have their own opinions on the subject.

Your friend is right. It shouldn't make any difference. Hell, for all we know, the CEO at McDonald's is a Nazi. There. Godwinned. ;)
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Well I haven't been eating there for a few months. Not because of this, but because I am trying to take fast food out of my diet.
 
soccerboy22 said:
Well I haven't been eating there for a few months. Not because of this, but because I am trying to take fast food out of my diet.
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I was trying to. But I feel the need to support Chick Fil A because of this. Neither me nor my family had eaten at a Chick Fil A in years I don't think. I will be going there once or twice a week now to counter the bigots and hate filled idiots.
 
muciti said:
I was trying to. But I feel the need to support Chick Fil A because of this. Neither me nor my family had eaten at a Chick Fil A in years I don't think. I will be going there once or twice a week now to counter the bigots and hate filled idiots.
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I'm just afraid that if I eat there I am inviting God's Judgement. It's like I am shaking my fist and saying to God, "I know better than you what people should eat for their Last Supper."
 
muciti said:
YourStar and many others are on one side of this argument. Because these two sides can only fight anything the other side says or does is an attack.
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Re: Gays and gay rights, there aren't 'two sides'.

Misquoted, out-of-context scripture is without substance, therefore not really a legitimate position or 'side' of the argument. It's the equivalent of believing the world is flat--there's only one side to that discussion.
 
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