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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

rocket88 said:
I support the right of anybody who chooses not to patronize a particular business for whatever reason.
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The question is not whether or not you have the right to do something, the question i keep asking is do you think it would be the right thing to do. Is it right for someone to boycott a business based on that persons sexual beliefs or any other beliefs for that matter?
 
muciti said:
I know it is there right. You are not understanding my question. Is it the right thing for people to do who disagree with your point of view? You stated earlier people should boycott Chick fil a because of the opinion of their owner. I assume you think it is the right thing to do.
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I answered that, I said:

If someone else feels that strongly against SSM, then it would be right for them as well to not spend money someplace that supports SSM.
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muciti said:
Lets say you and I were out and wanted to get some lunch and there was a restaurant owned by 2 gay men. If I did not agree with homosexuality would that be a good reason for me to not go to that restaurant? Or rather would it make more sense for me to eat some lunch there since their beliefs have nothing to do with my sandwich?
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Again, if you felt strongly about SSM being illegal, then yes it would be right for you to do so.

Here's a flip question, would you spend money at a business that was owned by a KKK member or someone who was openly against the United States?
 
VanceMack said:
Funny how Chick Fil A has maintained the same positions for 44 years and the liberal groups suddenly found their voice and outrage...two months after Obama 'changed' his position.

The people upset over Chick Fil A's position on gay marriage have all the integrity of a singly ply cracked balsa wood bridge. If their own 'values' can be so easily sold out in the name of politics how can they expect ANYONE to take them seriously? I guarantee...ChickFilA comes out the winner on all of these public displays of 'courageous' outrage.
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Well, except for all those people who have been boycotting Chic-Fil-A for alot longer than that....

Darn facts...
 
TheNextEra said:
I answered that, I said:
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No you didnt. The word right has multiple means. Having a right to do something, and it is right to do something are two completely separate things. I am asking you if it is right for people who do not support gay marriage to boycott a business run by a gay man. I am not asking you if they have the right to to do it. I am asking you if it is right for them to base their decision on where to eat on the owners sexual orientation or beliefs.

Here's a flip question, would you spend money at a business that was owned by a KKK member or someone who was openly against the United States?
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I dont think I would know if a business was run by a KKK member. But if I found out it was it would depend. Is this business refusing to serve black people or treating them different in some way? If no, then I have no problem with that business. The owners beliefs and a businesses practices are not the same thing. Chick Fil A is not discriminating against gays in any way. They will give a gay man the same service, pricing food and anything else that they give to a straight man. They employ gay people and they pay them the same. (i know of a couple that both work at the same chick fil a) It would be one thing if Chick Fil A discriminated but there is absolutely no proof of that.
 
Redress said:
Well, except for all those people who have been boycotting Chic-Fil-A for alot longer than that....

Darn facts...
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Oh I KNOW...we have just been TRIPPING over them...just like the anti-war protesters...lets not forget them. Good gawd... :lamo
 
muciti said:
Ironic dont you think? Equality is not something you agree with? Are people allowed to have beliefs that differ from yours, or does that make them suddenly a bigot? One would argue that you boycotting a business because of a persons beliefs is equally bigotted.
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Pro SSM married people aren't trying to exclude anyone from the rights and protections that go with marriage. They aren't saying that hurricanes will destroy America if they aren't allowed to get married.
 
I didn't eat at Chic-Fil-A to begin with.
 
Thorgasm said:
Pro SSM married people aren't trying to exclude anyone from the rights and protections that go with marriage. They aren't saying that hurricanes will destroy America if they aren't allowed to get married.
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Can you show me in a chick fil a restaurant where that is stated? A picture will be fine.
 
Redress said:
Well, except for all those people who have been boycotting Chic-Fil-A for alot longer than that....

Darn facts...
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Yes, because he's clearly talking about individual one off people and not a concentrated generalized loud national awareness of it. :roll:
 
VanceMack said:
The irony is not from me...the irony is all the people running around pretending to give a **** about this issue while they swallowed their outrage throughout the Obama presidency. The irony is that they ignored the issue...as long as it was the same as Obamas. Oh...wait...thats not really irony is it...its just blatant, pathetic hypocrisy.
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What was the alternative to Obama? Obama has done more for gay rights than McCain would have. :rofl

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So...they will be attacking EVERY group that is opposed to gay marriage now...right? They will be going after black ministers, Hispanic and black groups...just like they did following the prop 8 vote in California. OH...wait...they didnt. So...yeah...it WILL be just like California.

****ing hypocrites. :lamo
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I have boycotted churches for a long time. I boycott the Source Awards and BET. I boycott Telemundo. I prefer to smoke Canadian weed over the Mexican strains. I don't drink Corona or smoke Newports.

Happy?
 
muciti said:
you mean the bigots who discriminate based on religion?
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Remember when Jesus flipped out on the homosexuals in the Temple?

Neither do I.
 
Thorgasm said:
What was the alternative to Obama? Obama has done more for gay rights than McCain would have. :rofl



I have boycotted churches for a long time. I boycott the Source Awards and BET. I boycott Telemundo. I prefer to smoke Canadian weed over the Mexican strains. I don't drink Corona or smoke Newports.

Happy?
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Ecstatic...no...wait...couldnt give a **** less. Your 'protesting' of all of those wonderful events is telling...and as relevant as Redress comment about others 'boycotting' ChikFilA. In other words...not relevant in the least. Face it...up until 2 months ago it wasnt very chic to come out gunning for businesses that held the same position as the KKKlansman in Chief.
 
muciti said:
No you didnt. The word right has multiple means. Having a right to do something, and it is right to do something are two completely separate things. I am asking you if it is right for people who do not support gay marriage to boycott a business run by a gay man. I am not asking you if they have the right to to do it. I am asking you if it is right for them to base their decision on where to eat on the owners sexual orientation or beliefs.
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I really don't understand why you are having a problem understanding what I wrote. When I say it is RIGHT for them to do something, that means it is RIGHT for them to do that. So for the third time using your sentence YES, it is right for them to base their decision on where to eat on the owers orientation or beleifs.

muciti said:
I dont think I would know if a business was run by a KKK member. But if I found out it was it would depend. Is this business refusing to serve black people or treating them different in some way? If no, then I have no problem with that business. The owners beliefs and a businesses practices are not the same thing. Chick Fil A is not discriminating against gays in any way. They will give a gay man the same service, pricing food and anything else that they give to a straight man. They employ gay people and they pay them the same. (i know of a couple that both work at the same chick fil a) It would be one thing if Chick Fil A discriminated but there is absolutely no proof of that.
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Again, it is YOUR choice to support them with YOUR money. I choose NOT to support them with MY money.
 
Thorgasm said:
What was the alternative to Obama? Obama has done more for gay rights than McCain would have. :rofl



I have boycotted churches for a long time. I boycott the Source Awards and BET. I boycott Telemundo. I prefer to smoke Canadian weed over the Mexican strains. I don't drink Corona or smoke Newports.

Happy?
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Ah! So...since you didnt have an 'alternative' you couldnt find your 'voice'. Pathetic, dood...,just admit it. You are a blatant hypocrite and your 'values' dont mean **** when they arent 'convenient'.
 
muciti said:
Can you show me in a chick fil a restaurant where that is stated? A picture will be fine.
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muciti said:
you mean the bigots who discriminate based on religion?
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We are all bigoted in some way. To deny that is deny reality. I am bigoted against pedophiles too. Is that bad?
 
TheNextEra said:
We are all bigoted in some way. To deny that is deny reality. I am bigoted against pedophiles too. Is that bad?
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You are equating pedophilia with religion? And at the same time advocating discriminating based on a persons religion? Please tell me I am reading this wrong.
 
Zyphlin said:
Well it's not a "chrisitan" organization as in it's goals are religious...but it's "christian" in the notion that its owners business practices and views are highlighly influenced by their religion.

Anyone that frequents a Chick-Fil-A should have at least a guess that they may be religious as I'm sure they've gone "Hmm, I'd love some [insert chick-fil-a food] right now" only to drive by the resturant and go "Ah ****! I forgot it's Sunday" because they close every single sunday.

In most stores there's usually a poster explaining why, due to the deeply held religious beliefs, they are closed on Sundays.
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Their employees must love the fact that they get to spend that day with their families. What a horrible company they are.
 
VanceMack said:
Ecstatic...no...wait...couldnt give a **** less. Your 'protesting' of all of those wonderful events is telling...and as relevant as Redress comment about others 'boycotting' ChikFilA. In other words...not relevant in the least. Face it...up until 2 months ago it wasnt very chic to come out gunning for businesses that held the same position as the KKKlansman in Chief.
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Unbunch your partisan panties and check this out from 12/1/21011:

Gays, lesbians call for Salvation Army boycott
 
TheNextEra said:
We are all bigoted in some way. To deny that is deny reality. I am bigoted against pedophiles too. Is that bad?
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Why? Its natural to them. 'God' made them that way. Do you really think a pedophile would CHOOSE such a lifestyle? Look at you being all judgmental and stuff. Your positions may just be archaic...just because it was 'wrong' in the past doesnt mean it will be 'wrong' in the future. You sound just like you belong to the KKK.
 
muciti said:
Uhhhhhh. You equate making food good with hurricanes destroying America?
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Hell that MAY be the most logical thing he has said on this topic.
 
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