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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    But in this particular situation, I think you have a bigoted view of this guy's right to believe in the Bible.
    wasn't directed to me, but I have to ask:

    What evidence do you have, if any, of any poster here arguing -- even tangentially -- that Mr. Cathy shouldn't have the right to believe whatever the hell he wants?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What's that about? How tolerant is that? You become what you accuse him of being? Yes? And if he did what you propose? If he said, "Our company doesn't sell to people who are in a SSM!!" Then he would be a bigot. But he doesn't say that. At all.
    Mr. Cathy goes out of his way to vocally oppose equal treatment of gays and lesbians. In addition to just voicing his opinion (with the extra-loud megaphone furnished by his unearned income), he also funnels significant money to demonstrably harmful causes and organizations. Those are actions, not just opinions.

    Objecting to his specific stance, and (more to the point) to his financial support for demonstrably harmful causes and organizations...is NOT a suggestion that he does not or should not have the right to maintain whatever beliefs (plausible or ridiculous, helpful or harmful) he prefers. He clearly has that right, just as others have the right to point out what a tool he is, and to choose not to support his commercial ventures out of a desire to not end up indirectly supporting his harmful actions.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    What if I said that your marriage was inviting God's Judgement on our nation?

    What if I said that people whose first marriage failed aren't as righteous as I am?

    What if I said that children of single parent households are "emotionally handicapped"?

    What if I gave money to organizations that wanted to outlaw your marriage?

    Would any of that make me intolerant?

    The audio of his interview can be found here:
    Chick-fil-A president: Gay marriage is 'inviting God's judgment on our nation' | The Daily Caller
    And the question still stands, why do you not boycott muslim business and protest in front of their mosques?
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    I see that muciti still refuses to acknowledge that a disagreement with one particular Christian is not an attack on all Christians. Given that he refused to answer my point about Hamas, I can tell he knows better, but refuses to admit it. It's intellectually dishonest.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    And the question still stands, why do you not boycott muslim business and protest in front of their mosques?
    Boycott Muslim businesses for what reason?


    Why are you conflating one xian-owned business, Chick-fil-A, with ALL businesses owned by persons of the Muslim faith? Of course there will be some bigots in that faith but just as with Chick-fil-A supporting bigotry does not mean all xians think the same way, one should not assume all Muslims will act in a bigoted manner - not at the entire faith.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    And the question still stands, why do you not boycott muslim business and protest in front of their mosques?
    Not all Muslims are Hamas or the mullahs of Iran.

    The right to swing your fist ends at my nose. The moment you work to restrict another person's liberty is when your opinion turns into oppression.

    I haven't protested in front of anything. Why haven't you defended Hamas?
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I see that muciti still refuses to acknowledge that a disagreement with one particular Christian is not an attack on all Christians. Given that he refused to answer my point about Hamas, I can tell he knows better, but refuses to admit it. It's intellectually dishonest.
    Most of Muciti's posts that I've had the misfortune of wasting time on display that property as well. Best to ignore them.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Boycott Muslim businesses for what reason?


    Why are you conflating one xian-owned business, Chick-fil-A, with ALL businesses owned by persons of the Muslim faith? Of course there will be some bigots in that faith but just as with Chick-fil-A supporting bigotry does not mean all xians think the same way, one should not assume all Muslims will act in a bigoted manner - not at the entire faith.
    The muslim faith teaches that homosexuality is wrong. As does the christian faith. As does jewish and Bahai and many others. Can you explain why people protest christain businesses and churches but they others are for some reason excempt and actually encouraged by most of those same people who support ssm. Why is christianity singled out?
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I see that muciti still refuses to acknowledge that a disagreement with one particular Christian is not an attack on all Christians. Given that he refused to answer my point about Hamas, I can tell he knows better, but refuses to admit it. It's intellectually dishonest.
    it is not one business. there have been multiple protests by ssm against business owned by christians and countless protests in front of christian churches. dont pretend this is an isolated incident.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    it is not one business. there have been multiple protests by ssm against business owned by christians and countless protests in front of christian churches. dont pretend this is an isolated incident.
    I'm sorry, no matter how much you try to make it true, a boycott of Chick Fil-A is not a boycott on all Christian businesses or Christianity as a whole. Multiple people have explained to you why it isn't and you refuse to listen. Bless your heart.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    You know, I'm not sure we're arguing anything of substance here. ChickFilA's CEO has the absolute right to express his opinion. He has the absolute right, as the CEO and major shareholder of ChickFilA, to donate to whatever legitimate charities he sees fit. And consumers have the absolute right to reject him and his company by boycotting his stores.

    Anyone on either side of the argument have a problem with that?
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