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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And Lisa Henson isn't? So when Chick-Fil-A's CEO comes out against SSM that is just him having his opinion, and he's not politicizing anything, but when Lisa Henson comes out in support of it, it's politicizing children's characters. The double standard you have here is ridiculous.
    Lies and double standards are the norm, not the exception, for the Right. In order to defend a lie, more lies are required, and when that lie is also called out, another lie is needed to try to cover it up. Or, just plain ignore it. Kinda like CFA's lie about the Muppets' toys' "safety issue."
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    Try as I might, I still don't see any actual examples of someone (mayor or otherwise) telling the business owner where he can or can't donate money to political causes.

    I DO see one or more mayors expressing outrage at the Chick-Fil-A owner's financial support of harmful causes.

    I DON'T see anyone being told to whom/what they can or cannot donate money.

    You DO get that expressing outrage over something != telling someone what they can/can't do, right?

    http://www.towleroad.com/

    Washington D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray has made his views about Chick-fil-A known, on Twitter:

    "Given my longstanding strong support for LGBT rights & marriage equality, I would not support #hatechicken."

    Gray later responded to Twitter users about his statement, adding: "What's embarrassing about supporting equal rights for your gay fellow Americans?...This is about more than their CEO's personal opinions. They also give hundreds of thousands of dollars to anti-gay groups...I said I oppose them, but cannot legally bar them...Because they give significant amounts of $$ to organizations that actively oppose equal rights for gay people."

    Read more: Washington D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray Calls Chick-fil-A 'Hate Chicken'| News | Towleroad


    Sounds like the DC mayor would, if he could, ban this business BECAUSE he doesn't like where the guy gives his money.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Sounds like the DC mayor would, if he could, ban this business BECAUSE he doesn't like where the guy gives his money.
    Actually what his quote sounds like is a response to others that want him to. He is explaining that you cannot legally bar someone just because you don't like where their money legally goes.

    He is correct in this response.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually what his quote sounds like is a response to others that want him to. He is explaining that you cannot legally bar someone just because you don't like where their money legally goes.

    He is correct in this response.

    So, IYO, if this DC mayor had the power he'd do nothing, right?

    Okay.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    We have one picture of that sign. I'll bet that was a reaction to the Henson Company notifying them that day that they would be ending their partnership. It would make sense to notify them before going public. (which happened the next day) The one sign I would be was from close to the corporate headquarters and probably made at the HQ. Most restaurants don't have laminators. I doubt they sent those signs out "next day air" either. It was a PR damage control attempt.
    chick fil a notified henson about they were pulling the toys, then the next day henson made her announcement. (according to chick fil a)
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    So, IYO, if this DC mayor had the power he'd do nothing, right?

    Okay.
    The DC Mayor? Yes, if he had the power to do it, I don't think he would. Like I said before, I oppose Chik-Fil-A 100% but I wouldn't use government to fight them. People boycotting them is perfectly fine.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The DC Mayor? Yes, if he had the power to do it, I don't think he would. Like I said before, I oppose Chik-Fil-A 100% but I wouldn't use government to fight them. People boycotting them is perfectly fine.
    So, IYO, what does the quote from the Mayor mean: "I would not support #hatechicken." ? Is he saying the opposite, that he would support "hatechicken"?
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    So, IYO, what does the quote from the Mayor mean: "I would not support #hatechicken." ? Is he saying the opposite, that he would support "hatechicken"?
    Not supporting something does not mean that you would use government power to oppose it. I don't support Chik-Fil-A expanding, but I wouldn't want to use government power to stop it.

    He doesn't support Chik-Fil-A expanding but he is letting people know that you cannot use government power to stop something like this just because you don't like where their money is legally going.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not supporting something does not mean that you would use government power to oppose it. I don't support Chik-Fil-A expanding, but I wouldn't want to use government power to stop it.

    He doesn't support Chik-Fil-A expanding but he is letting people know that you cannot use government power to stop something like this just because you don't like where their money is legally going.

    IMO, if he had the power to ban the business, he would.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    IMO, if he had the power to ban the business, he would.
    Whatever makes you feel better I suppose.

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