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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    It is wrong to discriminate against a person for their religious beliefs.
    Indeed. Unless their beliefs involved criminal actions toward others, or civil rights violates. Then it is okay to correct their perverted and misguided fear-based version of Christianity.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    )People are basing their decision whether or not to eat as his diner on this mans religious beliefs and nothing more. I am ok with people not eating there. I could care less. Its the reason they are eating there that I find disgusting.
    It is not based simply on his beliefs. It is based on how he uses his money and position to fund bigotry and impose his bigotry on others. Do you actually think he would hire people who spend their spare time lobbying for SSM?

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    There needs to be a distinction between mere beliefs and actions based on those beliefs. Let's say someone says they don't believe African Americans are on the same level with Caucasians but they take no discriminatory action against that group in any way. I would use that business because there is no actual discrimination against African Americans. Now let's say that same business gives sub level service based on that belief.

    My refusing to fund their bigotry is not discrimination. It is refusing to fund discrimination.
    If Chick Fil A treated its homosexual employees or customer differently in any way you may have a point. But they dont.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Chick-Fil-A really has no choice but to claim to abhor gay rights and marriage, because in the right wing southern Xtian states like MS, KT, AL, etc. Chick-Fil-A is considered fine dining. One has to consider the economic situation of the right wing folks that live there; middle class righties in those states just eat hot dogs or Mac-and-Cheese and go out to McDonald's for fine dining, whereas the elite upper wealthy class dines at Chick-Fil-A.

    When an eating establishment is revered as a culinary creme-de-la-creme by so many right wingers, the last thing such an establishment should do is insult its patrons by supporting something those patrons consider deplorable. After all, what would happen if a right wing couple in AL, KT, MS, etc. walked into a Chick Fil-A, having saved up for so many months to afford to dine there, and saw a gay couple dining at another table. To say the least, they would pissed to the max.


    Wait a minute, are you sure you've smeared everyone in the South you possible could? Think about it a minute, I'm sure you can come up with a few more folks you can add to your bigoted tirade.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Indeed. Unless their beliefs involved criminal actions toward others, or civil rights violates. Then it is okay to correct their perverted and misguided fear-based version of Christianity.
    Oh do tell. What criminal action or civil rights violation did he make.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    It is not based simply on his beliefs. It is based on how he uses his money and position to fund bigotry and impose his bigotry on others. Do you actually think he would hire people who spend their spare time lobbying for SSM?
    Yes at the chick fil a that I was at last night a gay couple that I am friends with work and got called into work last night to help with the heavy volume of orders. Not only does he employ them and I am sure they support ssm he gave them OT pay to come in last night to help.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    It is wrong to discriminate against a person for their religious beliefs.
    And do you think its wrong to discriminate against the WBC? Or is it wrong to boycott Nabisco for their views on SSM?

    Also they are discriminating against him (not in the legal sense) because he supports discrimination (in the legal sense) against homosexuals. That is the difference here. He supports groups that are fighting to keep homosexuals from gaining the same rights and privileges as others. The boyotters arnt trying to take away his rights or privileges nor are they trying to prevent him from gaining equality under the law.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Indeed. Unless their beliefs involved criminal actions toward others, or civil rights violates. Then it is okay to correct their perverted and misguided fear-based version of Christianity.

    actually the courts take a pretty clear stance on advocacy vs action.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    And do you think its wrong to discriminate against the WBC? Or is it wrong to boycott Nabisco for their views on SSM?

    Also they are discriminating against him (not in the legal sense) because he supports discrimination (in the legal sense) against homosexuals. That is the difference here. He supports groups that are fighting to keep homosexuals from gaining the same rights and privileges as others. The boyotters arnt trying to take away his rights or privileges nor are they trying to prevent him from gaining equality under the law.
    I keep telling you there is a differnce between illegal and wrong.

    Let me ask you this. Do you think it is right or wrong of me to refuse to eat at a diner because it is run by muslims? Not legally.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    And do you think its wrong to discriminate against the WBC? Or is it wrong to boycott Nabisco for their views on SSM?
    WBC should have the same rights as anyone else. Also yes I think it is wrong to boycott Nabisco for their views on SSM.
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