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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Where did ChickFilA's CEO say anything like this?

    I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that the US has become among the most tolerant nations of the gay/lesbian lifestyle. We have a ways to go, but we're on the right path, that's for sure.
    Yes, we have a ways to go and this CEO is part of the problem. Therefore not supporting Chic-fil-A is the way to go.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Where did ChickFilA's CEO say anything like this?

    I'm not sure, but I'm guessing that the US has become among the most tolerant nations of the gay/lesbian lifestyle. We have a ways to go, but we're on the right path, that's for sure.
    “I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, ‘We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,’” said Cathy.

    “I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about,” he added.

    Chick-fil-A president: Gay marriage is
    There is an audio link on that page too. Dan Cathy also says that children of single parent homes are "emotionally handicapped".
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Am I missing where The Muppets had anything to do with ChikAFilA to begin with? Was there some sort of prior business relationship? Did they sometime in the past use Muppet characters in their advertising?

    Sounds like the daughter is desparate to reinvigorate her father's business. Their revival movie barely made it's nut and the government is increasingly pulling out of PBS (a prime source of Muppet revenue). What Lisa Hensen thinks, so what? Might as well be quoting a random dude on the street.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Except, of course, some small percentage of whatever you spend on those tasty nuggets will be spent somewhere de-humanizing gay people. Which, of course, is your choice. They won't be doing it with any of my money, which is my choice.
    Yep, that's my choice and yours. Each can make it. I'm however not naive enough to believe that most every business I interact with has some individual utilizing the money they gain in some fashion I disagree with, nor hollow in my need to be principled to only give a damn when such a thing is made obvious. Kind of like I have no issue stopping for Citgo Gas on my way to work if I'm low and need to grab it quick when that's the best station on the way.

    Perhaps if a company is doing enough egregious things at a large enough level with enough purposeful intent in terms of those specific egregious things, I personally may decide to act differently. Considering I believe Chick-Fil-A also to be spending the money from my tasty nuggets on a number of GOOD sources and reasons that I approve of as well, and the amount of impact my money is going to actuall have on that one specific lone part that I have significant issue with (note, that's not the "no gay marriage" part but the "homosexuality should be illegal" part. one of those I disagree with politically, one I find inherently unethical), it's not enough to change my eating habits. More power to you if it does yours...we all get that choice. I'm not saying my choice is right for you, only that it's right for me.

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Am I missing where The Muppets had anything to do with ChikAFilA to begin with? Was there some sort of prior business relationship? Did they sometime in the past use Muppet characters in their advertising?

    Sounds like the daughter is desparate to reinvigorate her father's business. Their revival movie barely made it's nut and the government is increasingly pulling out of PBS (a prime source of Muppet revenue). What Lisa Hensen thinks, so what? Might as well be quoting a random dude on the street.
    They were using Muppet toys in their kids meals.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    There is an audio link on that page too. Dan Cathy also says that children of single parent homes are "emotionally handicapped".
    That much is true (what you quoted Cathy as saying).

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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yep, that's my choice and yours. Each can make it. I'm however not naive enough to believe that most every business I interact with has some individual utilizing the money they gain in some fashion I disagree with, nor hollow in my need to be principled to only give a damn when such a thing is made obvious. Kind of like I have no issue stopping for Citgo Gas on my way to work if I'm low and need to grab it quick when that's the best station on the way.

    Perhaps if a company is doing enough egregious things at a large enough level with enough purposeful intent in terms of those specific egregious things, I personally may decide to act differently. Considering I believe Chick-Fil-A also to be spending the money from my tasty nuggets on a number of GOOD sources and reasons that I approve of as well, and the amount of impact my money is going to actuall have on that one specific lone part that I have significant issue with (note, that's not the "no gay marriage" part but the "homosexuality should be illegal" part. one of those I disagree with politically, one I find inherently unethical), it's not enough to change my eating habits. More power to you if it does yours...we all get that choice. I'm not saying my choice is right for you, only that it's right for me.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    They were using Muppet toys in their kids meals.
    Aha. Well then it's a win/win for Chik. They can pay less for the crap that gets thrown in the kid's meals (Muppet licensing isn't cheap) and they no longer have to support Hensen and Company. Hensen loses, Chick gains.

    Gotta say, this is a terrible business decision on Hensen's part. Her Board of Directors should vote her out immediately. She just tied the Muppets (a children's entertainment company) to a sexual orientation cause. With a little advertising by the anti-gay folks and the Muppets could easily become the "gay toy". That's speaking to an exceedingly small market.
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, we have a ways to go and this CEO is part of the problem. Therefore not supporting Chic-fil-A is the way to go.
    Do you also think the it is the right thing for those who are not in favor of ssm to boycott and refuse to support any organization or store that does support ssm or is run by homosexuals? Should consumers really be basing their spending habits on the sexual preferences and opinions of business owners?
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    Re: Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Some people fail to recognize that it is quite possible to be a Christian without being a hateful bigot spreading lies in order to try to damage a group of people.

    The one's who actually follow Jesus' teachings, for instance.............
    However, the norm for the majority of your strict fundamentalist southern baptists, which is what Cathy is and has made no bones about it, is opposition to gay marriage.

    Apparently stereotyping how a group is going to vote based singularly on their religious beliefs as a means to attempt to insult them, as often happens with regards to evangelicals and the "religious right" is perfectly okay. However, stereotyping them based singularly on their religious beliefs when it would keep you from eating their tasty tasty chicken....absolutely unfathomable and you would of course only act once it's blatantly stated that they hold that stereotypical view.

    That's the part that makes me chuckle.

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