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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

CaptainCourtesy said:
And in this country, that is completely legal. I don't support Dan Cathy's position, but I support his right to HAVE his position.
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Thats fine, but do you support the Gays to HAVE their postion? No pun intended. lol
 
Moot said:
Do you think a business has a right to discriminate against the people that live in the community it does business in? I don't. Especially, if they intend to profit off that community. Who pays for the police, roads, sidewalks and street lamps that make it convenient and secure for the customers to go to that business? The people in a community have a vested interest in the kind of companies they want in their community and if that businesses values don't fit....then they don't belong there.
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If you can demonstrate discrimination, please do.
 
Moot said:
If you think thats horrifying then imagine how Gays feel when Chick-fil-a's owner, Dan Cathy uses the profits from his business to lobby government officials to pass anti-gay legislation.
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The difference being that Chik-fil-A owner is a PRIVATE citizen donating to a group that lobbies, versus a Mayor specifically ABUSING his power as a government official. I am boycotting Chik-fil-A, but I am doing so as a private citizen. There is a huge difference.

I guarantee you that you would think differently if this was a Mayor abusing his power to prevent a gay bar from coming into the city.

A Mayor SHOULD NOT be using his power in this manner.
 
Wake said:
If that is so would you please present the exact components/matter that determine homosexuality? This would exclude absolutely any sort of subjectivity and theorization.
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It occurs in approximately 400 other species.

If you go look at Bailey and Piallrd's work, Hamer's work (somewhat disputed) on Xq28, Bocklandt had a good paper about the maternal side of homosexuality.

Mustanski had numbers approaching significance at 8p26 (I think) and 10q26. 10q26 occurs on the maternal side which gives merit to the idea that it may be maternally linked on the X chromosome.

Jesus, this is easy stuff. Get it right.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
And in this country, that is completely legal. I don't support Dan Cathy's position, but I support his right to HAVE his position.
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Can't be said enough. That's all this boils down to. America is a free country.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
It occurs in approximately 400 other species.

If you go look at Bailey and Piallrd's work, Hamer's work (somewhat disputed) on Xq28, Bocklandt had a good paper about the maternal side of homosexuality.

Mustanski had numbers approaching significance at 8p26 (I think) and 10q26. 10q26 occurs on the maternal side which gives merit to the idea that it may be maternally linked on the X chromosome.

Jesus, this is easy stuff. Get it right.
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With all due respect, I'm looking for proven certainty. Absolutely no speculation, "disputation," or mere "ideas." We knoe chemicals like monosodium glutamate are proven to exist. I want to know the exact chemical(s) that cause homosexuality that are proven to exist.
 
Wake said:
I want to know the exact chemical(s) that cause homosexuality that are proven to exist.
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What are the exact chemical(s) that cause heterosexuality that are proven to exist?
 
Wake said:
With all due respect, I'm looking for proven certainty. Absolutely no speculation, "disputation," or mere "ideas." We knoe chemicals like monosodium glutamate are proven to exist. I want to know the exact chemical(s) that cause homosexuality that are proven to exist.
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There are plenty of research articles. Start with the ones whose authors I posted.
 
TheNextEra said:
What are the exact chemical(s) that cause heterosexuality that are proven to exist?
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THIS is the point I always make. You cannot discuss the biological causes of sexual orientation without discussing the biological causes of BOTH homosexuality and heterosexuality.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
THIS is the point I always make. You cannot discuss the biological causes of sexual orientation without discussing the biological causes of BOTH homosexuality and heterosexuality.
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FlyBase Gene Report: Dmel\sphinx

The biological causes of heterosexuality is reproduction, without heterosexual reproduction, there would be no offspring.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
FlyBase Gene Report: Dmel\sphinx

The biological causes of heterosexuality is reproduction, without heterosexual reproduction, there would be no offspring.
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Patently false. A Lesbian friend has always wanted a child, but did not want to be with a man. Therefore, she was artificially inceminated and now has a child.

Reproduction is NOT the cause for heterosexuality. Heterosexuality will generally lead to reproduction, but reproduction is not the cause for it.
 
TheNextEra said:
Patently false. A Lesbian friend has always wanted a child, but did not want to be with a man. Therefore, she was artificially inceminated and now has a child.

Reproduction is NOT the cause for heterosexuality. Heterosexuality will generally lead to reproduction, but reproduction is not the cause for it.
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Yeah I wasn't really satisfied with the way I worded that statement. I don't feel it really conveyed what I was trying to say. I'll work on it.

Anyway, that gene from D. Melanogaster shows a link to heterosexual activity.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
The biological causes of heterosexuality is reproduction, without heterosexual reproduction, there would be no offspring.
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I think the male needs to impregnate the female in order for the species to survive .

With all due respect, I don't see why a male would insert his thing into another male's poop shoot. Sorry, but I find that disgusting and I don't see what the point of it is. Likewise, I don't see the point of oral sex among male/female partners, other than some sort of twisted gratification.
 
Wake said:
With all due respect, I don't see why a male would insert his thing into another male's poop shoot. Sorry, but I find that disgusting and I don't see what the point of it is. Likewise,

I don't see the point of oral sex among male/female partners, other than some sort of twisted gratification.
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I'll tell you exactly why...

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Wake said:
I think the male needs to impregnate the female in order for the species to survive .

With all due respect, I don't see why a male would insert his thing into another male's poop shoot. Sorry, but I find that disgusting and I don't see what the point of it is. Likewise, I don't see the point of oral sex among male/female partners, other than some sort of twisted gratification.
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That's your right to believe that. I know some people that find oral sex disgusting and don't understand why heterosexual or homosexual people do that either.

The whole point of SSM marriage argument is why make SSM illegal just because you don't like how two people have sex. And if that's not the reason, why do opponents of SSM keep bringing it up?
 
Wake said:
Likewise, I don't see the point of oral sex among male/female partners, other than some sort of twisted gratification.
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One day, if you are lucky, you will learn that a mouth feels better than a hand.
 
Wake said:
I think the male needs to impregnate the female in order for the species to survive .

With all due respect, I don't see why a male would insert his thing into another male's poop shoot. Sorry, but I find that disgusting and I don't see what the point of it is. Likewise, I don't see the point of oral sex among male/female partners, other than some sort of twisted gratification.
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Why would a man stick his reproductive (and urinary) organ inside the woman's reproductive (and urinary) organ? You realize anal sex stimulates the prostate, right?
 
Thorgasm said:
One day, if you are lucky, you will learn that a mouth feels better than a hand.
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If you close your eyes...a man's mouth feels the same as a woman's mouth...or so I've been told ;)
 
OscarB63 said:
If you close your eyes...a man's mouth feels the same as a woman's mouth...or so I've been told ;)
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Maybe you just have a feminine mouth. :2razz:
 
Wake said:
I think the male needs to impregnate the female in order for the species to survive .

With all due respect, I don't see why a male would insert his thing into another male's poop shoot. Sorry, but I find that disgusting and I don't see what the point of it is. Likewise, I don't see the point of oral sex among male/female partners, other than some sort of twisted gratification.
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Isn't that the entire point? :shrug:


OscarB63 said:
If you close your eyes...a man's mouth feels the same as a woman's mouth...or so I've been told ;)
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Never kissed a man, but I've kissed plenty of women. I can attest that not all women kiss the same. Some kiss good... some VERY good... some not good at all.

As I'm sitting here thinking about it, I'm not sure I'd say all women's mouths "feel" the same, either, so I'd question the men/women thing, too. Then again, maybe I'm thinking about it in a different way than was intended.
 
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radcen said:
Isn't that the entire point? :shrug:
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I don't think so.

The male mates with the female so the human species can survive.
 
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