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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

Thrilla said:
sorry dude... Obama flip flopped like a dying fish.

one can agree with his flip flopping and like where his "evolution" ended up, but one can't deny the reversal of position.
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He has stated he thinks it should be up to the States. How is that a flipflop? Did he ever say he wanted to to ban it at the State level or at the Federal level? I'm not saying Obama hasn't flipflopped on important things, but this isn't one of those incidences.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
I pointed to the various press releases they issued about the case, and why his defense was essential to a healthy, and functional, first amendment
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You didn't link them. I found that they lost in the Supreme Court. Intimidation isn't protected speech. Free speech is not absolute. This topic has nothing to do with Virginia v. Black.
 
I am not reading 43 pages, so I apologize if this has already been said, but...

...seems to me that the Chicago Mayor has opened his city up to millions of dollars in a settlement from a discrimination lawsuit.
 
radcen said:
I am not reading 43 pages, so I apologize if this has already been said, but...

...seems to me that the Chicago Mayor has opened his city up to millions of dollars in a settlement from a discrimination lawsuit.
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Has Chick Fil-A actually applied for a license or is this all just political grandstanding?
 
Thorgasm said:
You didn't link them. I found that they lost in the Supreme Court. Intimidation isn't protected speech. Free speech is not absolute. This topic has nothing to do with Virginia v. Black.
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you should read more closely. The ruling was that cross burning, when it is used to communicate a real, and immediate, threat, that it could be criminally prosecuted. The court also asserted, at the same time, that cross burning could be used as an act of solidarity, like in the black case, and overturned the lower court ruling against him.

But , again, you seemed confused; I clearly directed you to the press releases describing why his defense was essential to a robust system of free speech.

Here's a good one


https://acluva.org/395/cross-burnin...n-essential-liberty-worthy-of-our-protection/


PS nothing in the above discussion concerning chick-fil-a has pointed to anything that could be construed as an attempt to intimidate or convey areal and immediate threat of violence, like cross burning
 
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They're common in malls nationwide, and they've been building more stand-alone units everywhere also. They have several here in Iowa already. While they may have their origins in the south, they are hardly irrelevant enough to be randomly dismissed as being a "southern" franchise.
 
radcen said:
They're common in malls nationwide, and they've been building more stand-alone units everywhere also. They have several here in Iowa already. While they may have their origins in the south, they are hardly irrelevant enough to be randomly dismissed as being a "southern" franchise.
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I wasn't dismissing them. I was saying that the politicians were grandstanding.
 
Prof. Peabody said:
Why are liberal so hateful and want to deny folks their 1st Amendment rights?
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Who's done that? He can speak. And others can call him what he is. That's freedom. :coffeepap
 
Prof. Peabody said:
Why are liberal so hateful and want to deny folks their 1st Amendment rights?
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Liberals are clearly evil to the core and have no souls. I think they have bad teeth too.
 
Thorgasm said:
Chick Fil-A isn't good food.
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Ah well - sex isn't always good, either . . . but that doesn't negate the entire pleasurable institution of it.

and well -there's nothing that hot sauce can't fix.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Ah well - sex isn't always good, either . . . but that doesn't negate the entire pleasurable institution of it.

and well -there's nothing that hot sauce can't fix.
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Hot sauce can't fix chitlins. I tried.
 
Boo Radley said:
Who's done that? He can speak. And others can call him what he is. That's freedom. :coffeepap
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“Chick-fil-A values are not Chicago values,” said Mayor Rahm Emanuel in a statement to the Chicago Tribune. “They disrespect our fellow neighbors and residents.”

Emanuel was vowing his support for Alderman Proco Moreno’s announcement that he would block construction of a Chick-fil-A restaurant in his district.

“If you are discriminating against a segment of the community, I don’t want you in the First Ward,” he told the newspaper.

Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
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Alderman a-hole is himself discrimination against a segment of the population because he disagree with their views. Just another liberal hypocrite we've come to expect.
 
Thorgasm said:
Liberals are clearly evil to the core and have no souls. I think they have bad teeth too.
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And dat ain nuttin' but da truf! :lol:
 
Josie said:
Unless you're claiming that Obama voters were clairvoyant and knew that he'd flip flop on the topic of gay marriage, then your question is irrelevant.
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I'm pretty sure, actually, that most Obama voters believed Obama was only anti-SSM for political purposes and that he'd "flip" once elected.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I'm pretty sure, actually, that most Obama voters believed Obama was only anti-SSM for political purposes and that he'd "flip" once elected.
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Was he really that disconnected from his African-American base?
 
nota bene said:
Was he really that disconnected from his African-American base?
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Well, he isn't really african american (his family never experienced slavery, or jim crow), and he lived a rather privileged life compared to your average aa child. Not sure what that has to do with a disagreement on gay marriage, though
 
Thorgasm said:
Chick Fil-A isn't good food.
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If you mean "good" in terms of healthy for you...by and large you're correct

If you mean "good" as in tasty...that's a matter of opinion. One I dare say a number of people disagree with you on.

Can't speak to some of the West Coast fast food joints that we don't have back here in the east/south. However....compared to the McDonalds, Wendy's, Burger Kings, Arbys, Sonics, Taco Bells, KFC's, Popeye's, BoJangles, Hardees, and Checker's that are in my general area Chick-Fil-A is easily at the top of the heap.
 
Boo Radley said:
Who's done that? He can speak. And others can call him what he is. That's freedom. :coffeepap
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I think he's referencing the notion of the Government punishing/acting against/discriminating against someone due to their stated Religious beliefs.

There's a distinct difference between Private Citizens "boycotting" a business because of the religious beliefs or speech of their owner. It becomes a bit more murky when the government does it however.
 
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