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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Mayors are elected to represent their constituents values and there are many, many mayors all across the country who refuse to allow certain companies to do business in their communities. Porn shops, liquor stores, bars, pawn shops, or businesses that just don't fit in the neighborhood. They aren't always successful as in the case Walmart but that is part of a mayors job to help bring in the right kind of business that will improve and benefit their community. So if a business is openly discriminatory against tax paying citizens in that community then why should they be allowed to do business there? Most businesses are tolerant and accept diversity, but Chick-fil-a shown has shown that it is not willing to accept a certain segment of society. So why should a diverse society accept them?
    No one has accused chick-fil-A of any discriminatory practices.

    And the idea that an elected official ought to have veto power over every business within his/her jurisdiction is horrifying.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Do you think a business has a right to discriminate against the people that live in the community it does business in? I don't. Especially, if they intend to profit off that community. Who pays for the police, roads, sidewalks and street lamps that make it convenient and secure for the customers to go to that business? The people in a community have a vested interest in the kind of companies they want in their community and if that businesses values don't fit....then they don't belong there.
    In your opinion, whom has chick-fil-A discriminated against?
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    No one has accused chick-fil-A of any discriminatory practices.

    And the idea that an elected official ought to have veto power over every business within his/her jurisdiction is horrifying.
    If you think thats horrifying then imagine how Gays feel when Chick-fil-a's owner, Dan Cathy uses the profits from his business to lobby government officials to pass anti-gay legislation.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    Right here. This is a prime example. You wanna boycott Chick Fil A? More power to ya, vote with your own money. But when mayors of cities get involved and tell a person "your values aren't my city's values", or "we wont allow your business here" because of your values, you are crossing even a legal line.

    You want to send a message to people "with more money than sense". Right here. A condescending way of saying, "if you oppose gay marriage, you are dumb". You have more money than sense. It's the clever way in which these sentiments are implied. I'm not a dumb person, I understand language quite well. What I'm sick of are these liberals who demand that we live in a "tolerant" society, but a society that doesn't tolerate certain view points. It's patently absurd, and frankly, it's an offense to one's intelligence.

    How many comments on this board have started like this: "personally, I think the CEO is flat out wrong and stupid....." Again, the condescention from the left is nauseating. Like somehow, if I oppose gay marriage, it's because I'm uneducated, or that I'm a bigot. I personally oppose gay marriage as well, and I'm fairly highly educated. What if I were to say something like this, "homosexuality is attributed to a low IQ", or "if you are gay, you are stupid"? Is that a tolerant belief? No, it isnt. Yet, it seems perfectly fine for liberals to run around and call anyone who opposes same sex marriage "stupid", "intollerant", "dumb", "biggoted", "haters", "rednecks". Wanna have that honest conversation liberals? Then stop calling the kettle black, and realize that liberals, by and large, are far more intollerant than anyone else in America. Period.
    Your last line demonstrates the hypocrisy of your entire post.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If you think thats horrifying then imagine how Gays feel when Chick-fil-a's owner, Dan Cathy uses the profits from his business to lobby government officials to pass anti-gay legislation.
    And in this country, that is completely legal. I don't support Dan Cathy's position, but I support his right to HAVE his position.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And in this country, that is completely legal. I don't support Dan Cathy's position, but I support his right to HAVE his position.
    Thats fine, but do you support the Gays to HAVE their postion? No pun intended. lol

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Do you think a business has a right to discriminate against the people that live in the community it does business in? I don't. Especially, if they intend to profit off that community. Who pays for the police, roads, sidewalks and street lamps that make it convenient and secure for the customers to go to that business? The people in a community have a vested interest in the kind of companies they want in their community and if that businesses values don't fit....then they don't belong there.
    If you can demonstrate discrimination, please do.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If you think thats horrifying then imagine how Gays feel when Chick-fil-a's owner, Dan Cathy uses the profits from his business to lobby government officials to pass anti-gay legislation.
    The difference being that Chik-fil-A owner is a PRIVATE citizen donating to a group that lobbies, versus a Mayor specifically ABUSING his power as a government official. I am boycotting Chik-fil-A, but I am doing so as a private citizen. There is a huge difference.

    I guarantee you that you would think differently if this was a Mayor abusing his power to prevent a gay bar from coming into the city.

    A Mayor SHOULD NOT be using his power in this manner.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    If that is so would you please present the exact components/matter that determine homosexuality? This would exclude absolutely any sort of subjectivity and theorization.
    It occurs in approximately 400 other species.

    If you go look at Bailey and Piallrd's work, Hamer's work (somewhat disputed) on Xq28, Bocklandt had a good paper about the maternal side of homosexuality.

    Mustanski had numbers approaching significance at 8p26 (I think) and 10q26. 10q26 occurs on the maternal side which gives merit to the idea that it may be maternally linked on the X chromosome.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And in this country, that is completely legal. I don't support Dan Cathy's position, but I support his right to HAVE his position.
    Can't be said enough. That's all this boils down to. America is a free country.

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