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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Today was supposed to be "Chick-fil-A" supporting day, so probably some were able to rally a bit easier than others. The supporting day was an event sponsored by fans and not the restraunt itself which is most likely why it didn't happen as much in some areas.
    Oh well I havent been there today so that could explain it.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

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    And I would agree. DD however stated no one was restricting his free speech. These mayors stating that because of his speech he will no longer be able to operate his business in their towns is a completely different story. That is exactly the type of government behavior the 1st amendment is designed to protect.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Question. Has CFA actually tried opening a new restaurant in Chicago after Rahm made those comments? I cant seem to find anything in a quick google search.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I can't imagine why anyone who wasn't gay would feel so strongly about it. There are so many issues to weigh in on . . . why so fervently on this particular one? No offense. I'm one of those who couldn't care less, by the way; though, maybe I'd have to say I feel a bit stronger than that. I think they have the same rights to happiness as the rest of us...and if this helps? *shrug*
    For the same reasons that those who are not persons of color feel strongly about other civil rights issues
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    So, you want people like me to have the freedom to say whatever I want, but you do not want me to be protected from consequences. Is that right?

    Ok, let's flip that philosophy. I do not want to "ban" homosexuality. People should be free to express their sexual desires for the same sex if they choose to. But they should be prepared for the societal consequence of a business owner not wanting to hire homosexuals.

    I do not want to "ban" abortion either. Women can maintain their "freedom" to have an abortion, but how about we punish them afterwards? Ya know, making them deal with the "repurcussions that follow". If you want to have an abortion, that is your right......however, expect to live with the consequences of your actions....there is a price to pay.

    See how your ideology works? lol...it's absurd. I am simply choosing to use YOUR LOGIC against you.

    They weren't attempting to curb his speech, but to punish him for his speech? lol... The Supreme Court has decided, more than once, that that is the same thing. Punishing speech is literally CURBING speech. You liberals and your double standards. What happened in liberals' cognitive development?
    Wow can you come up with a more convoluted argument? A better example would be something like....McDonalds comes out and says that they are in favor of gay marriage....and thousands of right-wing Christians boycott McDonalds.

    McDonalds has their free speech rights intact....but they are not free to suffer whatever consequences follow.

    I just soooooooo tired of the "persecuted Christian martyrdom"....where they claim "free speech violation" when they are forced to deal with the consequences of their bigoted speech.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well let's see, since I am not voting for Obama and have claimed so for a couple of years now, who am I defending again?

    Now, can you answer the question of whether or not you agree 100% with the politicians you have voted for? Or will you be ducking and running from the question again?

    Chicken**** conservatives/Independents love to claim they have morals and values and then vote for people that don't have those values.
    Ah...so you arent even VOTING for the guy and still defended his bigotry...thats even MORE sad. As to your 'question...I LEFT the republican party over Bush. I have no problem calling out people I support when they are wrong. I challenge you to find a blanket defense of ANY politician or for that matter, blanket criticism. I routinely praise Clintons leadership and role as president and even give Obama credit when/where it is due. You on the other hand?

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    If you were intellectual honest, you would realize that Obama didn't give money to groups that dehumanize homosexuals. He doesn't use rhetoric that says if we let the gays marry each other we will "invite God's Judgement on our nation" and call kids of single parents "emotionally handicapped".

    Obama now supports it. Cathy does not. So it is not even similar now. I know "up until 2 months ago." He is a wiser man today than he was two months ago. even then it wasn't "exactly the same position.
    Ah...so its the 'giving money' standard now huh? Except...no...anytime someone here so much as dares to express opposition to gay marriage...sorry...they too are labelled as 'bigots'. You folks are a laugh riot.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ah...so its the 'giving money' standard now huh? Except...no...anytime someone here so much as dares to express opposition to gay marriage...sorry...they too are labelled as 'bigots'. You folks are a laugh riot.
    People have a right to be bigots (and others have the right to call em out as such). I disagree with folks who are racists and homophobes and I'll gladly admit it, but I recognize that that is their right - right up until they engage in actions of discrimination and and political activities that actively harms others. That's when I start to get real pissed.

    It's one thing to say and believe something (one is entitled to their own beliefs and nobody can change that fact). It's quite another to put bigotry in action.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    People have a right to be bigots (and others have the right to call em out as such). I disagree with folks who are racists and homophobes and I'll gladly admit it, but I recognize that that is their right - right up until they engage in actions of discrimination and and political activities that actively harms others. That's when I start to get real pissed.

    It's one thing to say and believe something (one is entitled to their own beliefs and nobody can change that fact). It's quite another to put bigotry in action.
    Riiiiight. People that you agree with should be able to contribute to their causes but people that dont shouldnt. The rule of law that has been in existence since we have been a country and the religious standards for people throughout time...they really 'piss you off'...as long as they are republicans. If they are democrats...well...gawsh...they really really really in their HEARTS dont mean what they say...


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