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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh come now...we have pretty fairly established how rapidly you and others have tripped over yourselves defending Obama, even though up until two months ago, when out of political need and expediency he changed his views, he held the same 'bigoted' position as the owner of ChickFilA.

    When you sell out your values in the name of politics, the faux outrage thing looks...well..sad...
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh come now...we have pretty fairly established how rapidly you and others have tripped over yourselves defending Obama, even though up until two months ago, when out of political need and expediency he changed his views, he held the same 'bigoted' position as the owner of ChickFilA.

    When you sell out your values in the name of politics, the faux outrage thing looks...well..sad...
    So you agree 100% with every candidate you voted for? If not you sold out your values in the name of politics.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Masada View Post
    So, you want people like me to have the freedom to say whatever I want, but you do not want me to be protected from consequences. Is that right?

    Ok, let's flip that philosophy. I do not want to "ban" homosexuality. People should be free to express their sexual desires for the same sex if they choose to. But they should be prepared for the societal consequence of a business owner not wanting to hire homosexuals.

    I do not want to "ban" abortion either. Women can maintain their "freedom" to have an abortion, but how about we punish them afterwards? Ya know, making them deal with the "repurcussions that follow". If you want to have an abortion, that is your right......however, expect to live with the consequences of your actions....there is a price to pay.

    See how your ideology works? lol...it's absurd. I am simply choosing to use YOUR LOGIC against you.

    They weren't attempting to curb his speech, but to punish him for his speech? lol... The Supreme Court has decided, more than once, that that is the same thing. Punishing speech is literally CURBING speech. You liberals and your double standards. What happened in liberals' cognitive development?
    What DD is saying about consequences is that while you have the freedom of speech to say that "Marriage should be between a man and a woman", the consequence of that speech is that some that are for SSM might use their freedom of speech to boycott you.

    This is not any different than how some conservatives boycott stores that don't say "Merry Christmas".

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Do you also support polygamy and making recreational drugs, gambling and prostitution legal? Banning the sale of alcohol on Sunday and celebrating Christmas as a national holiday (holy day?) is a wonder as well, yet we survive these religious based "traditions" too even if they too have clear basis ONLY in religion (tradition?), not for any "compelling state interest". The idea that a "loud and proud" minority need only focus on ONE thing, and thereby invent a new right, by convincing some "historic" judge to make it so, without need for a majority vote or constitutional amendment is getting WAY out of hand.

    It took a constitutional amendment to ban the recreational drug alcohol (and another to restore it), yet merely adding something to a "controlled and dangerous" sunstances list now makes marijuana, heroine, cocaine, meth, ecstasy and bath salts illegal nationwide. Gambling is banned in some state, legal in others and only allowed by the state in others - just like SSM yet that "freedom" of states is OK since the "loud and proud" don't seem to mind that yet. Prostitution as a voluntary transaction between consenting adults harms nobody yet is taboo, mainly based on religious objections, just as SSM and polygamy are. I am amazed that "principle" only seems to be an issue for the "loud and proud" SOMETIMES.
    If a law like banning SSM is deemed unconsitutional, the judge has EVERY right to overthrow it.

    And Christmas is far from a national "holy" day it is more like a capitalist holiday. You see more people trying to "buy" jesus rather than following Jesus. Talk about your hypocrites.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    For the record I would most likey not vote for Emanuel
    Oh iforgot to say

    I most likely won't eat at chick fil a either

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes



    Once again, freedom of speech only matters if you agree with liberal indoctrination.


    To give public notice, those municipal governments should post what are legal and illegal religious beliefs business owners are allowed to have in their cities.

    Certainly they must make it clear they outlaw any Muslim owned businesses as that is an intensely anti-gay-rights religion.

    Really, every city should establish the required religious beliefs of each their own cities, don't you think?

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you agree 100% with every candidate you voted for? If not you sold out your values in the name of politics.
    Look how cute you are. Defending your attack of one mans bigotry...thats...precious. So...you ONLY attack 'bigots' when they are of a separate political persuasion. That is...in a word...pathetic.

    Like I said...its pretty hard to expect others that DISAGREE with values that you dont even have the character to stand behind.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Look how cute you are. Defending your attack of one mans bigotry...thats...precious. So...you ONLY attack 'bigots' when they are of a separate political persuasion. That is...in a word...pathetic.

    Like I said...its pretty hard to expect others that DISAGREE with values that you dont even have the character to stand behind.
    Well let's see, since I am not voting for Obama and have claimed so for a couple of years now, who am I defending again?

    Now, can you answer the question of whether or not you agree 100% with the politicians you have voted for? Or will you be ducking and running from the question again?

    Chicken**** conservatives/Independents love to claim they have morals and values and then vote for people that don't have those values.

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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Look how cute you are. Defending your attack of one mans bigotry...thats...precious. So...you ONLY attack 'bigots' when they are of a separate political persuasion. That is...in a word...pathetic.

    Like I said...its pretty hard to expect others that DISAGREE with values that you dont even have the character to stand behind.
    If you were intellectual honest, you would realize that Obama didn't give money to groups that dehumanize homosexuals. He doesn't use rhetoric that says if we let the gays marry each other we will "invite God's Judgement on our nation" and call kids of single parents "emotionally handicapped".

    Obama now supports it. Cathy does not. So it is not even similar now. I know "up until 2 months ago." He is a wiser man today than he was two months ago. even then it wasn't "exactly the same position.
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    Re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh PUH-LEASE.....stop it with the persecuted Christian Martyr routine. No one is restricting his speech. What you fanatics fail to recognize is that you ABSOLUTELY have the right to your free speech....what you don't have the right to is to be free from the repurcussions that follow.

    If you want to be a bigot....that is your right......however, expect to live with the consequences of your bigotry...there is a price to pay.
    Free speech isn't really "free" if the govt punishes you for it now is it?

    Using your "logic" you are "free" to do anything you want (rape, murder, etc) since you must face the repurcussions that follow.

    Perhaps you should dust off your dictionary and look up the meaning of "free"
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