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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    The case of the op the government seems stirred to action directly based on the content of an individuals, and organizations political/religious position and speech
    Cathy is still free to speak his mind. Cathy isn't a registered voter in Chicago so Rahm Emanuel isn't obligated to represent him.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    There is a very good reason everyone in the upper midwest refers to chicago as "****cago".

    Rahm is just a living testament to it.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

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    We've been trying to explain that concept to people for several hours now. With poor results.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    if the govt punishes you because of your speech...it is abridged. free speech isn't really free if you get punished for speaking it
    So by that logic, if I am a federal government employee, and I make some racist public statements, then the government agency I work for can't fire me? I think this is much more nuanced than you think it is.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    they are attempting to deny them a license based on the content of their speech. That's taking punitive action, and the govt attempting to abridge their first amendment right
    No, Cathy is still free to speak his mind. The leaders of communities don't believe Chick Fil-A's values would be a good fit for their community.

    If Cathy ran a strip club no one would think twice about a permit being denied based on that freedom of expression.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So by that logic, if I am a federal government employee, and I make some racist public statements, then the government agency I work for can't fire me? I think this is much more nuanced than you think it is.
    Wouldn't Juan Williams being fired from NPR be a good example? Technically it's private, but its funding and organization is public. Many supporters of his said that it was biased or partisan, but I don't know of anyone who said firing him was illegal.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    He could still express it from a jail cell also. The concept is "without fear of reprisal from the government"
    And can you point me to the amendment where it says you have a right to a business permit anywhere you want?
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So by that logic, if I am a federal government employee, and I make some racist public statements, then the government agency I work for can't fire me? I think this is much more nuanced than you think it is.
    last I checked...chik-fil-a was not a govt employee, so your comparison is invalid. as a member of the military, my free speech is limited in certain circumstances...none of which apply to the average citizen.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    The whole concept is complete bull**** and hypocrisy. Any person on he supporting Boston's Mayor would be SCREAMING till their head exploded if a southern state specifically claim that homosexuality is an abomination and were going to not allow a Target to be built in their city. But as is typical liberal style, in this case it supports their agenda so it's okay. No wonder our country is so ****ed up.
    Speaking of Target, They are touted as a gay friendly company but they also support anti gay politicians. That however gets overlooked with a wink and a nod so long as [big corporate] Target keeps the benjamins flowing to the groups that support the gay cause.

    ...and I think it should be noted the mayor did not say he wouldn't allow Chick-Fil-A in his city. He suggested they not build there.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    No, Cathy is still free to speak his mind. The leaders of communities don't believe Chick Fil-A's values would be a good fit for their community.

    If Cathy ran a strip club no one would think twice about a permit being denied based on that freedom of expression.
    Cathy isn't running a strip club, so your analogy fails. It would only be accurate if Cathy ran a christian strip-club, and Joe ran a Jewish strip-club...then Cathy runs her mouth about gays so you close her down, yet leave Joe alone because he left his mouth shut.

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