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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

Erod said:
Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes



Once again, freedom of speech only matters if you agree with liberal indoctrination.
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To give public notice, those municipal governments should post what are legal and illegal religious beliefs business owners are allowed to have in their cities.

Certainly they must make it clear they outlaw any Muslim owned businesses as that is an intensely anti-gay-rights religion.

Really, every city should establish the required religious beliefs of each their own cities, don't you think?
 
TheNextEra said:
So you agree 100% with every candidate you voted for? If not you sold out your values in the name of politics.
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Look how cute you are. Defending your attack of one mans bigotry...thats...precious. So...you ONLY attack 'bigots' when they are of a separate political persuasion. That is...in a word...pathetic.

Like I said...its pretty hard to expect others that DISAGREE with values that you dont even have the character to stand behind.
 
VanceMack said:
Look how cute you are. Defending your attack of one mans bigotry...thats...precious. So...you ONLY attack 'bigots' when they are of a separate political persuasion. That is...in a word...pathetic.

Like I said...its pretty hard to expect others that DISAGREE with values that you dont even have the character to stand behind.
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Well let's see, since I am not voting for Obama and have claimed so for a couple of years now, who am I defending again?

Now, can you answer the question of whether or not you agree 100% with the politicians you have voted for? Or will you be ducking and running from the question again?

Chicken**** conservatives/Independents love to claim they have morals and values and then vote for people that don't have those values.
 
VanceMack said:
Look how cute you are. Defending your attack of one mans bigotry...thats...precious. So...you ONLY attack 'bigots' when they are of a separate political persuasion. That is...in a word...pathetic.

Like I said...its pretty hard to expect others that DISAGREE with values that you dont even have the character to stand behind.
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If you were intellectual honest, you would realize that Obama didn't give money to groups that dehumanize homosexuals. He doesn't use rhetoric that says if we let the gays marry each other we will "invite God's Judgement on our nation" and call kids of single parents "emotionally handicapped".

Obama now supports it. Cathy does not. So it is not even similar now. I know "up until 2 months ago." :roll: He is a wiser man today than he was two months ago. even then it wasn't "exactly the same position. ;)
 
disneydude said:
Oh PUH-LEASE.....stop it with the persecuted Christian Martyr routine. No one is restricting his speech. What you fanatics fail to recognize is that you ABSOLUTELY have the right to your free speech....what you don't have the right to is to be free from the repurcussions that follow.

If you want to be a bigot....that is your right......however, expect to live with the consequences of your bigotry...there is a price to pay.
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Free speech isn't really "free" if the govt punishes you for it now is it?

Using your "logic" you are "free" to do anything you want (rape, murder, etc) since you must face the repurcussions that follow.

Perhaps you should dust off your dictionary and look up the meaning of "free"
 
Just an observation, but the Chick-fil-A lines are spilling out into the main traffic today. This has turned into a huge boon of business for the guy.
 
Erod said:
Just an observation, but the Chick-fil-A lines are spilling out into the main traffic today. This has turned into a huge boon of business for the guy.
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I'm not surprised. Hey Oscar - did I not tell you this would happen?
 
TheNextEra said:
What DD is saying about consequences is that while you have the freedom of speech to say that "Marriage should be between a man and a woman", the consequence of that speech is that some that are for SSM might use their freedom of speech to boycott you.
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I haven't read the entire thread, but is someone saying others should not be allowed to boycott? Because I have zero problem with that. I, and I suspect most, have a problem when the government (council woman, mayors, governors) starts getting involved and pulling for the removal of the restaraunts, or threatening not to allow the restaraunts in their cities/wards/etc. That is the infringement on free speach that most concerns me.
 
buck said:
I haven't read the entire thread, but is someone saying others should not be allowed to boycott? Because I have zero problem with that.
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No, but some people are confusing "consequences of free speech" as meaning government intervention. There are legal consequences to free speech. For instance if two gay men are dressed outlandishly and legally skimpy, the consequence to their act of "free speech" could be loss of support from a heterosexual because of it. Likewise the consequence of free speech from Chick-fil-A is some people are boycotting it legally.

buck said:
I, and I suspect most, have a problem when the government (council woman, mayors, governors) starts getting involved and pulling for the removal of the restaraunts, or threatening not to allow the restaraunts in their cities/wards/etc. That is the infringement on free speach that most concerns me.
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I agree with you there.
 
Erod said:
Just an observation, but the Chick-fil-A lines are spilling out into the main traffic today. This has turned into a huge boon of business for the guy.
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That buttered bun, tasty pickles and warm crisp filet of chicken is going to win this battle.
 
jambalaya said:
That buttered bun, tasty pickles and warm crisp filet of chicken is going to win this battle.
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Then a heart attack will win the next battle.
 
The irony of this whole thing is that this has energized a nation of obese people to eat more unhealthy fast food.
 
jambalaya said:
That buttered bun, tasty pickles and warm crisp filet of chicken is going to win this battle.
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I just got back from Chick fil A, and the war has been won....the one here in Logan is about a year old and we go there about 2 times a month. Today the line was ALMOST out the door, and the drive thru lane was packed. Parking had spilled over to the ShopKo lot. Took us a while to get our order placed and delivered. They must have run out of cheese and bacon as my club sandwich was missing those items. A camera man was there taking video, and got the crowd to do a little pro chick fil A chant for his camera. It appears that business is booming....

Breaking News....
Wendy's, McDonalds, KFC, Burger King, Arbys, Pizza Hut, and several others have just come out against SSM.....:2razz:
 
Funny...I go to CFA quite often and have been there three times this week yet have not seen lines pouring out of the building. To me it just looks like business as usual.
 
Omgitsme said:
Funny...I go to CFA quite often and have been there three times this week yet have not seen lines pouring out of the building. To me it just looks like business as usual.
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Today was supposed to be "Chick-fil-A" supporting day, so probably some were able to rally a bit easier than others. The supporting day was an event sponsored by fans and not the restraunt itself which is most likely why it didn't happen as much in some areas.
 
TheNextEra said:
Today was supposed to be "Chick-fil-A" supporting day, so probably some were able to rally a bit easier than others. The supporting day was an event sponsored by fans and not the restraunt itself which is most likely why it didn't happen as much in some areas.
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Oh well I havent been there today so that could explain it.
 
Question. Has CFA actually tried opening a new restaurant in Chicago after Rahm made those comments? I cant seem to find anything in a quick google search.
 
MaggieD said:
I can't imagine why anyone who wasn't gay would feel so strongly about it. There are so many issues to weigh in on . . . why so fervently on this particular one? No offense. I'm one of those who couldn't care less, by the way; though, maybe I'd have to say I feel a bit stronger than that. I think they have the same rights to happiness as the rest of us...and if this helps? *shrug*
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For the same reasons that those who are not persons of color feel strongly about other civil rights issues
 
Masada said:
So, you want people like me to have the freedom to say whatever I want, but you do not want me to be protected from consequences. Is that right?

Ok, let's flip that philosophy. I do not want to "ban" homosexuality. People should be free to express their sexual desires for the same sex if they choose to. But they should be prepared for the societal consequence of a business owner not wanting to hire homosexuals.

I do not want to "ban" abortion either. Women can maintain their "freedom" to have an abortion, but how about we punish them afterwards? Ya know, making them deal with the "repurcussions that follow". If you want to have an abortion, that is your right......however, expect to live with the consequences of your actions....there is a price to pay.

See how your ideology works? lol...it's absurd. I am simply choosing to use YOUR LOGIC against you.

They weren't attempting to curb his speech, but to punish him for his speech? lol... The Supreme Court has decided, more than once, that that is the same thing. Punishing speech is literally CURBING speech. You liberals and your double standards. What happened in liberals' cognitive development?
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Wow can you come up with a more convoluted argument? A better example would be something like....McDonalds comes out and says that they are in favor of gay marriage....and thousands of right-wing Christians boycott McDonalds.

McDonalds has their free speech rights intact....but they are not free to suffer whatever consequences follow.

I just soooooooo tired of the "persecuted Christian martyrdom"....where they claim "free speech violation" when they are forced to deal with the consequences of their bigoted speech.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well let's see, since I am not voting for Obama and have claimed so for a couple of years now, who am I defending again?

Now, can you answer the question of whether or not you agree 100% with the politicians you have voted for? Or will you be ducking and running from the question again?

Chicken**** conservatives/Independents love to claim they have morals and values and then vote for people that don't have those values.
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Ah...so you arent even VOTING for the guy and still defended his bigotry...thats even MORE sad. As to your 'question...I LEFT the republican party over Bush. I have no problem calling out people I support when they are wrong. I challenge you to find a blanket defense of ANY politician or for that matter, blanket criticism. I routinely praise Clintons leadership and role as president and even give Obama credit when/where it is due. You on the other hand? :lamo
 
Thorgasm said:
If you were intellectual honest, you would realize that Obama didn't give money to groups that dehumanize homosexuals. He doesn't use rhetoric that says if we let the gays marry each other we will "invite God's Judgement on our nation" and call kids of single parents "emotionally handicapped".

Obama now supports it. Cathy does not. So it is not even similar now. I know "up until 2 months ago." :roll: He is a wiser man today than he was two months ago. even then it wasn't "exactly the same position. ;)
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Ah...so its the 'giving money' standard now huh? Except...no...anytime someone here so much as dares to express opposition to gay marriage...sorry...they too are labelled as 'bigots'. You folks are a laugh riot. :lamo
 
VanceMack said:
Ah...so its the 'giving money' standard now huh? Except...no...anytime someone here so much as dares to express opposition to gay marriage...sorry...they too are labelled as 'bigots'. You folks are a laugh riot. :lamo
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People have a right to be bigots (and others have the right to call em out as such). I disagree with folks who are racists and homophobes and I'll gladly admit it, but I recognize that that is their right - right up until they engage in actions of discrimination and and political activities that actively harms others. That's when I start to get real pissed.

It's one thing to say and believe something (one is entitled to their own beliefs and nobody can change that fact). It's quite another to put bigotry in action.
 
StillBallin75 said:
People have a right to be bigots (and others have the right to call em out as such). I disagree with folks who are racists and homophobes and I'll gladly admit it, but I recognize that that is their right - right up until they engage in actions of discrimination and and political activities that actively harms others. That's when I start to get real pissed.

It's one thing to say and believe something (one is entitled to their own beliefs and nobody can change that fact). It's quite another to put bigotry in action.
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Riiiiight. People that you agree with should be able to contribute to their causes but people that dont shouldnt. The rule of law that has been in existence since we have been a country and the religious standards for people throughout time...they really 'piss you off'...as long as they are republicans. If they are democrats...well...gawsh...they really really really in their HEARTS dont mean what they say...

:lamo
 
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