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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Looks to me like it's the epitome of government taking action against someone specifically because of something they spoke.
    And they are still free to express that opinion. The government hasn't silenced Chick Fil-A.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Freedom of speech / expression only protects you from the government restricting what you say
    and isn't this exactly what is being attempted here?

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    This isn't a freedom of speech issue. His speech was not abridged.
    if the govt punishes you because of your speech...it is abridged. free speech isn't really free if you get punished for speaking it
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Chick-fil-A gives money to groups that want to criminalize homosexuality and other groups that treat homosexuality like a mental illness. That is not current law.
    What groups do they give to that want to criminalize homosexuality? Even if groups did want to do that, they Supreme Court has already struck that notion down.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    And they are still free to express that opinion. The government hasn't silenced Chick Fil-A.
    they are attempting to deny them a license based on the content of their speech. That's taking punitive action, and the govt attempting to abridge their first amendment right

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    and isn't this exactly what is being attempted here?
    I don't know I think its something of a gray area. For example, could a city not grant a business license to a white supremacist group? Cities typically have a good deal worth of leeway in determining what businesses set up shop in their municipality.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    And they are still free to express that opinion. The government hasn't silenced Chick Fil-A.
    He could still express it from a jail cell also. The concept is "without fear of reprisal from the government"
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I do understand where you're coming from, but in the current legal environment a private business should be free to donate money to whatever charitable or political organizations they choose without fear that local governments will bar them from doing business or opening new locations in response.

    By the same notion, not the rule of law, shouldn't a politician be able to say what they want.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    By the same notion, not the rule of law, shouldn't a politician be able to say what they want.
    as long as they don't tap their foot in an airport restroom while saying it
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Yes it was, and is.

    If I told you that, as a result of things you said on this forum, you were no longer employed, and able to make money at your job...would you feel that was a violation of your free speech?

    Not a good example because your example uses two private parties. The 1st amendment is only protection from the government.
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