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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Chick-fil-A gives money to groups that want to criminalize homosexuality and other groups that treat homosexuality like a mental illness. That is not current law.
    That is a good point there.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
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    Once again, freedom of speech only matters if you agree with liberal indoctrination.
    This isn't a freedom of speech issue. His speech was not abridged.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Does no one understand the concept of free speech?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you tell us all what is illegal about denying a business license?
    So denying business licenses to stores that openly support gay causes, specifically because they openly support and sell gay themed merchandise is equally legal correct?
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    This isn't a freedom of speech issue. His speech was not abridged.
    Yes it was, and is.

    If I told you that, as a result of things you said on this forum, you were no longer employed, and able to make money at your job...would you feel that was a violation of your free speech?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    This isn't a freedom of speech issue. His speech was not abridged.
    Looks to me like it's the epitome of government taking action against someone specifically because of something they spoke.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Yes it was, and is.

    If I told you that, as a result of things you said on this forum, you were no longer employed, and able to make money at your job...would you feel that was a violation of your free speech?
    No, I wouldn't feel like it was a violation of my free speech. I don't work for the government. There is nothing in the First Amendment that says anything about my employer not being able to fire me for exercising my right to free speech.

    Can you point out where there are not supposed to be consequences for things I may say?
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Yes it was, and is.

    If I told you that, as a result of things you said on this forum, you were no longer employed, and able to make money at your job...would you feel that was a violation of your free speech?
    That is perfectly legal. Your employer certainly can fire you for things that you say outside of work if while doing so you are associated with your company. For example, if I said I Joe Blow that work's at Acme believe that the civil rights act was a mistake. My employer could legally fire me for saying that in a public forum and it would be perfectly constitutional.

    Freedom of speech / expression only protects you from the government restricting what you say, not from the public consequences of what you say.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    No, I wouldn't feel like it was a violation of my free speech. I don't work for the government. There is nothing in the First Amendment that says anything about my employer not being able to fire me for exercising my right to free speech.

    Can you point out where there are not supposed to be consequences for things I may say?
    The case of the op the government seems stirred to action directly based on the content of an individuals, and organizations political/religious position and speech

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel17 View Post
    Before you call names, you should go back and actually read my posts. I'm not defending what the mayor of Boston wants to do on moral ground. I haven't been saying it's a great thing. I've been discussing it's legality, which is hardly an indisputable point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    This isn't a freedom of speech issue. His speech was not abridged.
    We've been trying to explain that concept to people for several hours now. With poor results.

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