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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    if anything it shows chicago supports fascism.
    If you got a penny for every time you used fascism, you'd be able to afford colour pictures for your avatar and signature.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    so your saying you cant refute this in any way
    No, I'm saying you made no analogy or sense.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you tell us all what is illegal about denying a business license?
    again, the issue isn't simply denying a business license, but denying based on the adoption of unpopular political ideas.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The owners of Chick-fil-A are Southern Baptist. Southern Baptist's believe in a literal interpretation of scripture. A literal interpretation of scripture states that homosexuality is a sin, and the marriage is between a man and a woman. The owners of Chick-fil-A gave money to groups that like them believe in a literal interpretation of scripture and all the bigotry that such a belief begets in a modern society. I certainly don't agree with them. I believe that same sex marriage will one day be ruled as constitutional. I believe that not allowing same sex couples the same rights and privileges under the law that the rest of us enjoy is discriminatory. However, I am not religious. Scripture does not dictate my beliefs. So I am not going to fault someone that honestly believes that the Bible is the literal word of God and thus support organizations that share the same view and promote the same ideology. Then again, its neither here nor there with me because I don't eat fast food because its bad for you.

    There is a huge difference between the owners of a company supporting organizations that share their religious views, and the owners of a company using their money to weaken environmental or labor laws. The owners of Chick-fil-A were not doing this to enrich themselves, they were doing this because that's what they believe.
    There are religious groups who interpret the story of Cain and Abel to mean that black people are cursed by God. If those people donated large sums of money to the KKK, I wouldn't distinguish between what they believe and what they are doing. It doesn't matter. They are providing money to a hate group.

    This is no different. It's a business that is providing money to a group that disseminates false information about gays in hopes of inspiring enough fear to bring about policy changes and throw gays behind bars. What they believe is irrelevant to what they are doing.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If you got a penny for every time you used fascism, you'd be able to afford colour pictures for your avatar and signature.
    if only you had a penny for every time you ignored the fact you are supporting fascism.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    There are religious groups who interpret the story of Cain and Abel to mean that black people are cursed by God. If those people donated large sums of money to the KKK, I wouldn't distinguish between what they believe and what they are doing. It doesn't matter. They are providing money to a hate group.

    This is no different. It's a business that is providing money to a group that disseminates false information about gays in hopes of inspiring enough fear to bring about policy changes and throw gays behind bars. What they believe is irrelevant to what they are doing.
    and hate groups are completely protected under the first, as long as they stick to advocacy.


    <<< Statutes affecting the right of assembly, like those touching on freedom of speech, must observe the established distinctions between mere advocacy and incitement to imminent lawless action, for, as Chief Justice Hughes wrote in De Jonge v. Oregon, supra, at 364: "The right of peaceable assembly is a right cognate to those of free speech and free press, and is equally fundamental." See also United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 552 (1876); Hague v. CIO, 307 U.S. 496, 513, 519 (1939); NAACP v. Alabama ex rel. Patterson, 357 U.S. 449, 460-461 (1958).>>>

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No, I'm saying you made no analogy or sense.
    so your saying you cant connect dots unless they agree with your viewpoint?????????????


    i guarantee everyone else can look at the anology and figure it out.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    again, the issue isn't simply denying a business license, but denying based on the adoption of unpopular political ideas.
    Again and for the last time because I have to get up early tomorrow:

    1. The alderman can publicly state that he will fight to deny Chik-fil-a a business license.
    2. The people reviewing the application can provide any legal excuse available to them in order to deny them.
    3. There isn't a thing which you could do in order to change the legality of their decision aside from taking them to court by suing.
    4. As unethical as you think it may be, the local authorities are fully within their right to make this decision.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    so your saying you cant connect dots unless they agree with your viewpoint?????????????
    Follow along:

    You.
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    Analogy.
    Or.
    Point.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

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