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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

HoongLoong said:
I'm not going to do your homework fer ya.

The important and relevant fact is that SCOTUS made the ruling that Same Sex Marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

The other BS is just a desperate effort to obfuscate and deflect the above ruling.

I don't play silly games.
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debate 101, you need to be able to back up your assertions.
 
HoongLoong said:
fact is that SCOTUS ruled that Same Sex Marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. PERIOD !!!
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:shock::lamo

wow that is one of the biggest lies I have seen posted around here and I have seen many.

Cant wait for you to talk your way out of this lie.
 
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megaprogman said:
He will try to put people on the defensive by accusing people who disagree with him as being dishonest and evil. Its a pretty see through tactic.
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yeah I have seen it around here before, I post links and sources and the response I get back is "nu-huh"

wonder if he realizes that if his lie was true there would be no SSM in the USA but, there is. WHOOOOOOPS lol
 
HoongLoong said:
I'm not going to do your homework fer y'all.

The important and relevant fact is that SCOTUS made the ruling that Same Sex Marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

The other BS is just a desperate effort to obfuscate and deflect the above ruling.

I don't play silly games. You're welcome to do that without me.
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You made the claim, you provide the evidence. Debate 101 as has been said. You don't, your point is irrelevant... and since that is the basis of your argument, your entire position is therefore irrelevant.

So, with that in mind, do you have anything valid to add?
 
HoongLoong said:
I'm not going to do your homework fer y'all.

The important and relevant fact is that SCOTUS made the ruling that Same Sex Marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

The other BS is just a desperate effort to obfuscate and deflect the above ruling.

I don't play silly games. You're welcome to do that without me.
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No such ruling. I was always able to finish my homework fast too ;)

Now lets see you extricate your head from your ass on this.
 
So when Rahm Emmanuel worked for two pro-traditional-marriage Presidents.... what values was he espousing then?
 
cpwill said:
So when Rahm Emmanuel worked for two pro-traditional-marriage Presidents.... what values was he espousing then?
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The same he always has...the value of partisan expediency. Who can we **** over and manipulate for the maximum vote getting value?

One need look no further than Rahms recent embrace of Farrakhan and Farrakhans comments on homosexuals and homosexuality to realize Rahm HAS no values and the voting blocs he targets mean somewhat less than **** to him. They are all a means to an end.
 
cpwill said:
So when Rahm Emmanuel worked for two pro-traditional-marriage Presidents.... what values was he espousing then?
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This Chicago Gangster, Rahm Emmanuel, like his current master, blatantly espouse OPPORTUNISM to further their political agenda regardless of the morality involved.
 
HoongLoong said:
This Chicago Gangster, Rahm Emmanuel, like his current master, blatantly espouse OPPORTUNISM to further their political agenda regardless of the morality involved.
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You just described almost every politician in America.
 
TheNextEra said:
You just described almost every politician in America.
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As with practically everything, there is the degree of culpability.

Unfortunately, I doubt if the politicos of any era could match the astonishing degree of the blatancy and the arrogance with which the Lieberroidals, and/or its subset, the Obumarrhoidals take the irrefutable crap either that the Dems spew out. Or, when their crap backfires on them, as in Obummer's gaffe about "people are not responsible for their success .... it's the govt that deserves the credit" ...... then claim that the irrufutable fact of their nonsense is "taken out of context", or "misunderstood". then, claim that the irrefutable fact of their nonsense is "taken out of context", or "misunderstood".

Or, what is even more galling, is that they have the audacity to claim the source of the BS to the opposition for what they themselves just barfed out.
 
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TheNextEra said:
You just described almost every politician in America.
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However THIS particular politician invites scrutiny. He just EMBRACED this guy with those 'values'...

"I love my people who are lesbian, homosexual, transgender. Don’t make no difference, I love you. But I have to teach you that which will make us more pleasing in the sight of God because his wrath now is coming down on America and on the world. And if you’re not on the right side, you will receive a terrible chastisement. You’re not a beast."
Speech in Jackson, Mississippi, 3/25/11

"We see pimps with a cross around their neck. We see hustlers. We see adulterers, fornicators, lesbians, homosexuals. If you can’t preach what Christ says, then get the hell out of the pulpit. If you can’t stand up for what God says, then why are you trying to represent a God that you are misrepresenting?"
Saviours' Day, Rosemont, Illinois, 2/27/11

"You think you know Jesus Christ?... If you knew him, why is there so much drunkenness, so much drugs, so much fornication, so much adultery, so much homosexuality, so much lesbianism, so much murder, so much crime? And all of you got a cross around your neck proclaiming a man that hasn’t got nothing to do with the madness we do in his holy and righteous name."
Holy Day of Atonement, Memphis, Tennessee, 10/18/09

"Right now, among the Jews, there's division. Because some Jews want to sanctify by the law, gay and lesbian and same sex unions and to ordain gay and lesbian rabbis, while there are other Jews that want to stick by the religious law. The same thing in Christianity. We are being divided over moral issues and Satan has made immoral things fair seeming, so the house of religion is divided."
Interview with AllHipHop.com, 4/16/07

"And the Christian right, with your blindness to that wicked state of Israel…can that be the holy land, and you have gay parades, and want to permit to have a gay parade in Jerusalem when no prophet ever sanctioned that behavior. HOW CAN THAT BE THE ISRAEL, how can that be Jerusalem with secular people running the holy land when it should be the holy people running the holy land. That land is gonna be cleansed with BLOOD!"
Saviours' Day, Chicago, Illinois, 2/26/06

“I call them the so-called Jews because to be a Jew you have to adhere to the statutes and laws that create the special relationship. How can you be a Jew and promote homosexual marriage?”
National Black Agenda Convention, Boston, 3/18/04

"But all of a sudden in the night clubs, they started having transvestite shows, drag queens… Scripture say no liar, no adulterer, no effeminate will get in the Kingdom."

Saviours' Day Speech, Chicago, 2/23/03

"I don’t hate Jews. I honor and respect those who try to live according to the teachings of the Torah, but you can’t criticize Jewish people. If you criticize them you are anti-Semitic. If you don’t agree with what they are doing, you are anti-Semitic. The Bible says, Revelations, those who say they are Jews and are not, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan. I don’t hear you preaching that full Gospel. You are afraid of consequences. But no man can say he’s a Jew and promote homosexuality. No man can say he’s a Jew and promote that which is against the commandments of God. No man can say he’s a Jew and run the despicable, degenerate movies. The filth and degenerate language."

Saviours' Day Speech, Chicago, 2/23/03

"...I think that when you warehouse Black men in prisons and they have a sexual drive that is being titillated by the lyrics and by the cultural degeneracy that pervades America today, this sexual need is sometimes filled with activity that God disapproves of."

Meet The Press interview, 10/12/97

"It seems like being gay or whatever sin you wish to be a part of is okay...but I have the duty to lift that gay person up to the standard to ask if they want to live the life that God wants them to or live the lifestyle that they want to live."

Boston speech, 8/7/97

“God don't like men coming to men with lust in their hearts like you should go to a female. If you think that the kingdom of God is going to be filled up with that kind of degenerate crap, you're out of your damn mind.”

Right...wrong...not very relevant when you are criticizing one persons 'values' and embracing another with those same values.
 
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I wonder how you liberals would feel if a mayor of a city denied a business an operation license
because they supported SSM?
When the shoe is on the other foot, the whole concept sounds ridiculous .
 
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longview said:
I wonder how you liberals would feel if a mayor of a city denied a business an operation license
because they supported SSM?
When the shoe is on the other foot, the whole concept sounds ridiculous .
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You'll have to show me where I was FOR denying a business and operating license because someone was against SSM first. Care to show where I was for that?
 
American said:
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I don't recall you having a problem with other conservatives focusing on Obama's Birth Certificate instead of the economy or debt. Why is that?
 
longview said:
I wonder how you liberals would feel if a mayor of a city denied a business an operation license
because they supported SSM?
When the shoe is on the other foot, the whole concept sounds ridiculous .
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The longer I've had to think about this, the madder it makes me. This is really an underlying problem -- the fact that politicians use their power to punish and censor. There was a time in our culture (not long ago) that an alderman or mayor coming out and saying he was going to do everything in his power to stop a faith-based company from opening up shop in his neighborhood would have been tarred, feathered and run out of town.

But today, if one comes out and says, "We are a faith-based company who believes in the Biblical defintion of marriage," it's okay-fine to use your political clout to bring them to their knees."

We should be outraged.
 
MaggieD said:
The longer I've had to think about this, the madder it makes me. This is really an underlying problem -- the fact that politicians use their power to punish and censor. There was a time in our culture (not long ago) that an alderman or mayor coming out and saying he was going to do everything in his power to stop a faith-based company from opening up shop in his neighborhood would have been tarred, feathered and run out of town.

But today, if one comes out and says, "We are a faith-based company who believes in the Biblical defintion of marriage," it's okay-fine to use your political clout to bring them to their knees."

We should be outraged.
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He's an opportunistic blowhard. He's just seizing an opportunity to get votes, and hopefully, this takes a lot of votes away from him.
 
I don't agree with a public official blocking the building of a Chik-file...it's to close to censorship.

I would love to point out the hypocrisy of a lot of posters on here though. Wasn't too long ago they were howling about the "Ground Zero Mosque" and that was just straight up religious persecution.
 
TheNextEra said:
You'll have to show me where I was FOR denying a business and operating license because someone was against SSM first. Care to show where I was for that?
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With Chick-fil-A fight, progressive mayors get their ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ moment - Guest Voices - The Washington Post
"This week, mayors of Boston, Chicago and San Francisco warned Chick-fil-A and its CEO Dan Cathy, who’s been an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, not to pursue new franchises in their cities. Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said he shares his fellow mayors’ concerns and would consider trying to block the chain as well.

“Closest #ChickFilA to San Francisco is 40 miles away,” tweeted San Francisco Mayor Edwin Lee on July 26, “& I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer.”"

Do you think they mean to deny the chain entry into their cities by force of will?
No they will deny them a permit!
 
MaggieD said:
The longer I've had to think about this, the madder it makes me. This is really an underlying problem -- the fact that politicians use their power to punish and censor. There was a time in our culture (not long ago) that an alderman or mayor coming out and saying he was going to do everything in his power to stop a faith-based company from opening up shop in his neighborhood would have been tarred, feathered and run out of town.

But today, if one comes out and says, "We are a faith-based company who believes in the Biblical defintion of marriage," it's okay-fine to use your political clout to bring them to their knees."

We should be outraged.
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Some of us are.
 
longview said:
With Chick-fil-A fight, progressive mayors get their ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ moment - Guest Voices - The Washington Post
"This week, mayors of Boston, Chicago and San Francisco warned Chick-fil-A and its CEO Dan Cathy, who’s been an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, not to pursue new franchises in their cities. Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said he shares his fellow mayors’ concerns and would consider trying to block the chain as well.

“Closest #ChickFilA to San Francisco is 40 miles away,” tweeted San Francisco Mayor Edwin Lee on July 26, “& I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer.”"

Do you think they mean to deny the chain entry into their cities by force of will?
No they will deny them a permit!
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What does this have ANYTHING to do with the comment I made?
 
MaggieD said:
But today, if one comes out and says, "We are a faith-based company who believes in the Biblical defintion of marriage," it's okay-fine to use your political clout to bring them to their knees."

We should be outraged.
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I am, while I don't have a problem with individuals boycotting I do have a problem with people in positions of government abusing their power in cases like this.
 
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