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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    I may not like Chik-Fil-As stance on SSM but I dont agree with blocking them from opening restaurants.
    now this is a point I can agree on as long as the actual stores arent doing anything wrong but his freedom of speech hasnt been infringed
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel17 View Post
    You don't understand. You are mistakenly conflating two separate things. Businesses do not have inalienable rights to open locations within cities. They have to apply for the license. Whichever city official makes that decision is not constitutionally bound to give the license to certain people. If he chooses not to give it to Chick-fil-A, there is nothing wrong with that. You act as though that decision-making process entails cutting the Gordian knot. What sort of things do you think goes into that decision?
    I bet you'd be singing a different tune if it was a minority or gay owned business that was being denied the license. there would be shrill shrieks of "racism" and or "bigotry" coming form every rooftop in town.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    now this is a point I can agree on as long as the actual stores arent doing anything wrong but his freedom of speech hasnt been infringed
    It has if the government is saying "we will punish your business because of your personal views."
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    effect? so what
    doesnt stop his freedom of saying what ever he wants
    I could go to Cleveland open a store and always wear steeler gear and say I love the steelers, that could effect my buisness too, or people could decided to boycott me because Im a steeler fan, again so what

    my right to say I love the steelers hasnt been infringed on

    now as far as if I think its the right move or not, well Id need more info currently it doesnt seem like it but my original point stands, this has nothing to do with the freedom of speech

    lots fo things can happen because of what one might say, the right and freedom to do so is still there
    Nonsense. The difference is that a boycott is a private sector action. This is government doing this.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel17 View Post
    Yeah, and the worst part is that some people actually think it's been static for all of human history, Western civilization, or whatever parameters you want. When of course the definition of marriage has changed many, many, many times over the centuries, and almost always for the better.
    Show me ONE time that marriage has changed in the U.S. if not by a state law change. Something as basically "wrong" as slavery, racial voting laws, gender voting laws and even the voting age differences required constitutional amendments to change them. The idea that SSM (or polygamy) is a some new found "right" because of other "traditions" (hopes or wants) ignores both reality, state and constitutional law. Get the state law changed or get a constitutional amendment passed or simply face reality and keep squacking about it to irritate even more people.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    actually it doesnt because he still has his freedom of speech it hasnt been impacted or taken away LMAO

    just like the day he said it, tomorrow he can still say he is against equal gay rights, nothing has changed
    yeah that's right...you can say whatever you want and people can punish or chastise you for it if they want.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    now this is a point I can agree on as long as the actual stores arent doing anything wrong but his freedom of speech hasnt been infringed
    Your right his freedom of speech hasnt been infringed technically. But it is still wrong in my opinion to keep him from opening more restaurants because of his personal opinions.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah that's right...you can say whatever you want and people can punish or chastise you for it if they want.
    However, the government may not.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I bet you'd be singing a different tune if it was a minority or gay owned business that was being denied the license. there would be shrill shrieks of "racism" and or "bigotry" coming form every rooftop in town.
    Do you have any evidence of this? Any reason for your assertion? Is it relevant to what we're actually talking about? Or are we just throwing out random, immaterial suppositions? Ok, I'll try...

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It has if the government is saying "we will punish your business because of your personal views."
    This is exactly why I think its wrong to stop someones business from opening just because their personal views. The government should not punish people for their personal views.

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