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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I have said it about twice now. I disagree with the FRC's conclusions and have said that their research is biased, and me calling it research doesn't mean that I somehow claim that gays are child molesters. I'm not defending the views of the FRC, I'm just saying that they aren't a hate group comparable with NeoNazis or the KKK.
    The fact that you continue to call their lies and distortion "research" says a lot more about your true beliefs than your doublespeak does. They are a hate group regardless of how much that hurts your feelings. They want to throw me behind bars, and whether or not you are willing to recognize it, they can only do that through violence and coercion. Yeah, they are a more polite hate group than the KKK. They aren't going to hunt me down and burn a cross on my yard. They would prefer to pass laws that would get the government to do their dirty work for them.

    I'm sorry that you find me sickening because I don't support your belief that the FRC is a hate group on par with the KKK and NeoNazis. I don't think your being rational on this issue, and I would encourage you to reflect on the possibility that you may have some bias. But regardless, I'm done. I have better things to do than try and defend myself against false accusations, straw men attacks and illogically derived conclusions about my beliefs.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post


    All hypocrites sicken me. Especially when they refuse to acknowledge their hypocrisy.

    that's what I find absolutely hilarious. considering that many of the same people in this thread who are denying that this is a violation of chik-fil-a's rights are the same people who squeal that voter ID laws violate the rights of minorities and the poor.


    apparently it only violates someone's rights if you agree with that person's or group's opinion
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So are you ok with some hick town denying a business license to black people based on race? Or what about a tiny country town that won't give a business license to atheists?
    The government isn't denying all Christians a business license. You want to try your comparison again champ?
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The government isn't denying all Christians a business license. You want to try your comparison again champ?
    but they are denying a christian business,already explained in a prevbious post as violsating the 14th amendment and also a classic fascist move in not allowing business that dont meet a political agenda
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I have said it about twice now. I disagree with the FRC's conclusions and have said that their research is biased, and me calling it research doesn't mean that I somehow claim that gays are child molesters. I'm not defending the views of the FRC, I'm just saying that they aren't a hate group comparable with NeoNazis or the KKK.

    I'm sorry that you find me sickening because I don't support your belief that the FRC is a hate group on par with the KKK and NeoNazis. I don't think you're being rational on this issue, and I would encourage you to reflect on the possibility that you may have some bias. But regardless, I'm done. I have better things to do than try and defend myself against false accusations, straw men attacks and illogically derived conclusions about my beliefs.

    THis group is intentionally stirring up hatred against gay people by appealing to the very visceral reaction people have to that which damages children. People who feel this hatred are apt to ac out on it in violent ways, and so yes -- this group is a hate group beyond any doubt.

    You are defending them by demanding that in order to be considered as a hate group, they need to be the equal of the kkk or Nazis in terms of actions or scope. The thing is -- that isn't the point. They don't HAVE to be guilty of the heinous actions of the Nazis or the KK to also be considered a hate group.

    By setting the bar so artificially high, you legitimize much that IS hateful, and you are doing so much in the same way other people do when it comes to other prejudices they share. I'm reminded of the way people try to portray Jews as scheming, deceitful manipulators, or Blacks as lazy criminals and then try to claim they aren't antisemitic or racist by claiming that the only anti-Semites or racists are those with even more extreme views.

    In his case, you are defending an organization that intentionally lies about gay people in order to try to damage them by whipping up the sort of hateful sentiment that so often does turn violent. By demanding that they need to be even MORE extreme in order to be considered a hate group, you legitimize their hatred.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
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    The underlined part is the important part. A homophobic establishment puts at stake the political interests of the state.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The government isn't denying all Christians a business license. You want to try your comparison again champ?
    nice dodge. you did say you'd be OK with them denying all christian business owners a license to open a christian bookstore.

    so what's the difference.

    we can't have christian bookstores but we can have black bookstores?
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Violence is not the only means of expressing hate. Purposely spreading false, damaging and hateful ideas about group is another means. An organization that spreads false information that homosexual men are more likely be pedophiles is a hate group. I suspect that the majority of people feel some version of hatred when thinking of pedophiles. Consequently, to smear an entire group with that label is certainly an action either aimed at spreading hate or aware of the potential to inspire hatred.

    Moreover, FRC and those who do not support SSM are, in fact, spreading the message that heterosexuality is superior to homosexuality, if not directly, then indirectly by attempting to stop it through homosexuality "rehabilitation" techniques. Similarly, they are certainly spreading the message that heterosexual relationships are superior to homosexual relationships when they argue that the latter should be banned or prevented and the former should be embraced.

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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    but they are denying a christian business,already explained in a prevbious post as violsating the 14th amendment and also a classic fascist move in not allowing business that dont meet a political agenda
    Read post 196.
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    re: Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    nice dodge. you did say you'd be OK with them denying all christian business owners a license to open a christian bookstore.
    Where!?!?! Show us all
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