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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    What makes you think it is preventable at all?
    Well, his actions were obviously the effect of one or more causes. Should we find out what those causes are, it may be possible to prevent future situations like this by eliminating or altering those causes.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Things like this can't be prevented, unless you favor mandatory psychological profiling and analysis on the general public. When someone is going through this type of mental change/dysfunction, they don't always even recognize that something is wrong.
    Just to be clear, I was differentiating between two lines of thought; I was addressing the info in the OP that guns sales were up. IMO that's an overreaction to the situation, and also think that if we're discussing ways that provide any possibility of reducing actions like Holmes', increasing armed citizens would be near the bottom of the list.

    I prefer a discussion of mental health over a discussion about arming citizens, but keep in mind I don't think just one thing is the problem.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    im sure they do...
    On Gun Control, Carolyn McCarthy Says Obama Should Use Executive Authority

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday that President Barack Obama should use his executive authority to reform gun laws, something that former President Bill Clinton has already shown is possible.

    McCarthy told reporters at the press event that the NRA "does intimidate many, many members," and afterward, she said lawmakers give too much credit to the NRA. Asked if she thinks Congress is just plain "chicken" when it comes to crossing the gun lobby, she said plainly, "Yes."
    yep..they.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Why do liberals bend over backwards to avoid actually blaming the person who was pulling the trigger?

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Why does something have to be to blame? Why cant he just be to blame?
    Well, nothing "has" to be the blame. However, if we're dealing with reality, no actions exist in a vacuum and most people's actions are the effects of many causes so things outside of him will contributed to his actions. That's just a fact. The will doesn't exist independent of genetics and environment.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    What makes you think it is preventable at all?
    I don't know if it was.

    But I do know just calling something evil doesn't help one bit.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Why do liberals bend over backwards to avoid actually blaming the person who was pulling the trigger?
    Two different subjects.

    Holmes already did what he did. 12 people are dead so far, and he'll be in prison his whole life, if not given the death penalty. He's clearly guilty and deserves everything he gets.

    The other subject is what led him to do what he did and what we might be able to do differently.






    My state of CO is home to two of the worst mass shooting in US. We don't want that title.
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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I don't know if it was.

    But I do know just calling something evil doesn't help one bit.
    Agreed. It's just a way for people to dismiss what they don't understand or what they are afraid of. It's kind of like people who assume that if they can't understand where something came from, "God did it." It does nothing to help humanity solve problems.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Well, his actions were obviously the effect of one or more causes. Should we find out what those causes are, it may be possible to prevent future situations like this by eliminating or altering those causes.
    Based on what? We don't know what his actions were the effect of. A person can just want to cause death and destruction. There does not have to be anything more to it than that. What is this guy going to say that is going to realistically shed any light on anything or change anything?
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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Why do liberals bend over backwards to avoid actually blaming the person who was pulling the trigger?
    which so-called Liberals are you talking about?

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