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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its a silly idea, that only a gun can stop a gunman.
    I'm waiting to hear a rational example of this. Should be fun.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its a silly idea, that only a gun can stop a gunman.
    Other than the gunman running out of ammo or his weapon jamming what are the other ways can stop a rampaging gunman without the use of gun?
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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Doesnt surprise me. Thats why the NRA uses fear....


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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    So is the understanding that when SECONDS count, the police are ony MINUTES away.
    Anti-gun tards seem to think that police are superman and can immediately be anywhere in seconds or that miss Cleo must work for the police.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Doesnt surprise me. Thats why the NRA uses fear....
    Yeah cause wanting an effective means to defend yourself against a criminal is just people being paranoid. (sarcasm)
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    According to data released by the Colorado Bureau of Investigations, 880 people applied for the state-approved background checks on Friday, 13 July, days before the shooting.

    On Friday, 29 July, the day following the shooting, the number was 1,216, and on the Saturday, 1,243. In total, 2,887 people were approved to buy a gun over the weekend, an increase of 43.5% on the weekend before, said the bureau.

    "What they're saying is, 'they want to have a chance'," he told the Denver Post. "They want to have the ability to protect themselves and their families if they are in a situation like what happened in the movie theatre."

    BBC News - Aurora shooting: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings
    Fear's a terrible thing.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Doesnt surprise me. Thats why the NRA uses fear....
    Appealing to fear is only wrong when that fear is irrational. Considering the anti-gun movement appealed to fear in order to ban bayonet lugs and pistol grips on weapons which present no rational threat, I'd say your side appeals to the irrational and/or ignorant.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think this is good news. And, on another thread talking about lawsuits, someone (TD, I think) pointed out that the theater might have some culpability for designating their theater a "no-gun zone." If one has a legal permit to carry a gun in any state, venues shouldn't be able to over-ride the law unless they're searching people as they come through the door, have armed security and metal detectors. (And don't have unmanned and unalarmed exits that allow people to come and go at will.) I agree with this, too.
    I'm on the fence here. While I believe firmly in maximizing liberty as our constitution allows it swings both ways. If I had a public venue, store, business it would be CCW friendly because I realize that CCW holders are even less likely to commit crimes than the general populace and could disarm or stop a criminal in the act, but I also realize that private property rights are just as important so I feel that if a business chooses to censor the ability to curse, carry weapons on premises, etc. it should be their right to do so even if I disagree with that decision. To the unmanned and unalarmed door, that could be a liability, as I pointed out in another thread there were club owners that were ordered by the fire martial in my city to "loosen" fire doors at all operational hours and they ended up hiring more security to watch for cover dodgers and people trying to go back to vehicles to get their weapons. That emergency exit is a necessity but definitely a double edged sword.

    If this ever happens in a public venue again, I hope we have enough armed citizens willing and able to take out the shooter by other means than throwing a box of popcorn at him. Hopefully, Coloradans have seen the light. Illinois? We're blind here.
    God bless you Maggie! If more people thought the whole situation out criminals would feel less safe to victimize, they would think twice about whether their desired crime zone would be hazardous or not due to armed "victims".
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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    Appealing to fear is only wrong when that fear is irrational. Considering the anti-gun movement appealed to fear in order to ban bayonet lugs and pistol grips on weapons which present no rational threat, I'd say your side appeals to the irrational and/or ignorant.
    Not sure appealing to fear is ever legit, not when it puts reason aside.

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    Re: Colorado gun sales up after cinema killings

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Fear's a terrible thing.
    Really? Do you people ever stop to think about what you post? Fear is a gift of nature.

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