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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

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    One of my NFL clients told me that the NFL stood for...
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    Sure, if you allow the behavior of a few to tarnish the image of the many.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Sure, if you allow the behavior of a few to tarnish the image of the many.
    It appears that is your impression, however, when someone like Micheal Vick, a convicted felon, is lauded because he is doing what everyone else is required to in society then is cavalier in subsequent interviews it is hard to say that these football factories turn out the cream of society's crop.

    Incidentally, my NFL guys were friends and I would join them for charitable events. They were never required to make personal appearances or play sports for charity these guys were just a bunch of great people that wanted to give back to society for what they have been received so freely in their lives.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    from Charles Pierce, a great writer

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    This is punishment. This is not "reform."

    This is not "reform" because the NCAA, the most corrupt entity in a corrupt business, is still in place, and so are its rules. This is not "reform" because, all over America, there are still multimillion dollar sports enterprises wagging the dog at universities, and coaches with enough power to cover up even the most heinous crimes. This is not "reform" because nothing was, well, reformed.

    As punishment, though, it is a big old meteor from space. Sixty million bucks is a considerable fine. (The essential worth of it, of course, will be judged by where the money actually goes.) And, of course, it's a happy day around the Bowden household.

    Pay the money, boys. It's chicken feed compared to the civil judgments that are coming down the track.
    It is highly possible that Penn State, within a few years, will be relegated to Div III status for its football teams because it won't be able to afford the high salaries demanded by Div I coaches.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

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    from Charles Pierce, a great writer



    It is highly possible that Penn State, within a few years, will be relegated to Div III status for its football teams because it won't be able to afford the high salaries demanded by Div I coaches.
    That's quite possible, but Penn State administration were well of the risks they were taking by hiding a monster and by allowing him to continue to rape children. Football was more important to them than anything. Of that there can be no doubt. It isn't the NCAA who ****ed over the university, the football program, the players still on the football team, the students, the fans and the supporters. Penn State, including Joe Paterno, made the conscious decisions to throw everything out there to sweet ****all and hope that they wouldn't get caught aiding and abetting child rape. Penn State sold the university down the river, not the NCAA.

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
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    It is highly possible that Penn State, within a few years, will be relegated to Div III status for its football teams because it won't be able to afford the high salaries demanded by Div I coaches.
    Good. Actions have consequences, the entrie reason to have RULES and LAWS that are enforced by imposing penalties. If the right to football money is secured by the right to allow staff to sexually abuse children then that DESERVES very, very serious sanctions. I am sick of the excuses from PSU morons; they enjoyed the benefits of condoning child sexual abuse BY ITS STAFF for 15 years, and now must pay a price, too low of a price, IMHO, but a price none the less.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    This went on FOR AT LEAST 15 years, thus the vacation of ALL of those wins, yet the sanction money is for 1/15th of that, only a single year's revenue. Even if only 10 children were harmed (a VERY low estimate) that is only $6 million per kid raped, FAR below what a civil jury award is likely to be. Placing money in a victim's fund is NOT the pervue of the NCAA, especilly limitting it to $60 million total, perhaps $60 million per victim or (per year) would be more appropriate. Much like saying we caught you STEALING $900 million so give back $60 million and we will call it all square.
    The $60 million is not going to the victims.

    The NCAA ordered Penn State to pay the penalty funds into an endowment for "external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university.
    Any money going to the victims will come from the civil suits that are sure to be filed against those responsible and the university.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    The $60 million is not going to the victims.



    Any money going to the victims will come from the civil suits that are sure to be filed against those responsible and the university.
    The funds for "assisting victims" will not be used for any PSU related victims? I am confused then.

    The NCAA ordered Penn State to pay the penalty funds into an endowment for "external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    When I consider this this raping little boys in the ass scandal combined with the climategate scandal at PSU from a couple years ago, I think it is tme to cut-off all taxpayer funding for PSU. Permanently.

    $60 million is just a drop in the bucket.

    Cut them off.

    PERIOD.

    Judging by the history of that corrupt institution, in my opinion, the only prudent thing for the taxpayers to do is sever all ties with PSU.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    When I consider this this raping little boys in the ass scandal combined with the climategate scandal at PSU from a couple years ago, I think it is tme to cut-off all taxpayer funding for PSU. Permanently.

    $60 million is just a drop in the bucket.

    Cut them off.

    PERIOD.

    Judging by the history of that corrupt institution, in my opinion, the only prudent thing for the taxpayers to do is sever all ties with PSU.
    It's a public university. That would be like saying we should cease all funding to the DOD 'cause a few soldiers and their superiors tried to cover up the Koran-pissing incident.
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