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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    this way to extremly excessive for what has taken place..........teams (football, basketball, baseball, ect) are to be penalized for cheating...acadmics, eligiblity whatever....what happend here did not give Penn State an edge on the football field.....a criminal act took place that just happened to be conducted by football staff, prosecute the ones guilty accordingly.....how does revoking scholarships, banning bowls, vacating wins ect. help the victims?......the money ok, i can see that but the "football program" didnt do this to those kids...only a handful of individuals did
    Because the University and the football program knew about it, did nothing to stop it, and covered it up. It could hardly be much clearer.
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    Before he announced the punishments....he said they were harsh and the intention is to send a message that FOOTBALL does not come before education and the safety of our children...and for that I support every single sanction....football shouldnt be and cant be more important than a schools mission of education.

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    I just got a text message from a friend, and I have to steal his line for here:

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Penn State Nittany Lions hit with $60 million fine, 4-year bowl ban, wins dating to 1998 - ESPN



    WOW! Is this too much, just right or too light? I would rather see those responsible punished than the entire institution, but it is what it is. At least the money will be going to a worthwhile cause, and it would say a lot if Penn State would spend more money towards the endowment being created.
    Everybody in the university who knew and did not report it to law enforcement should go to prison,this is just a slap on the wrist. In many states it is a crime to not report child abuse.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    I'm fine with all this as long as they are allowing the current players to transfer without penalty. Seems like a fitting punishment to me.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Some need to get a grip. This is the NCAA which has ZERO criminal prosecution ability. The DA can still file charges and the victims can still sue the University for some of the profit in covering up the rapes. This is nowhere near done. Prison time and heavy civil fines are still in bound.

    Loss of bowl money is a heavy fine all by itself.

    This is most likely not the beginning of the end to this matter but rather the end of the beginning. Penn State has not begun to feel pain. Those who think to this point has been too much, take some Midol, it ain't gonna get better anytime soon.

    Child rape, long time cover-up, athletic program over child welfare... I find the whine over the 'poor athletes' instead of damn Paterno and the University for allowing YEARS of child abuse rather disgusting. You don't think the poor athletes knew what the rumors were????

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    this way to extremly excessive for what has taken place..........teams (football, basketball, baseball, ect) are to be penalized for cheating...acadmics, eligiblity whatever....what happend here did not give Penn State an edge on the football field.....a criminal act took place that just happened to be conducted by football staff, prosecute the ones guilty accordingly.....how does revoking scholarships, banning bowls, vacating wins ect. help the victims?......the money ok, i can see that but the "football program" didnt do this to those kids...only a handful of individuals did
    I would assume it was done to set an example make sure other football programs don't try cover up tragic incidents like this because they don't want to take a dip in football profits.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    I'm fine with the penalties, and I especially like the warning to other schools to be wary of "hero worship". This is a big problem at many schools where some coaches enjoy a virtually god-like position on campus.

    However, the hypocrisy of these rulings coming from such a corrupt organization like the NCAA is disgusting, too.

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Sports has become thugged up, or more so, in the last 10 years. Much of it, maybe all of it, is related to the "win at all costs" attitude and the emphasis on players rather than teams. An old coach once told us that there is no "me" in "team". We're forgetting that as a nation maybe.

    The pressure to win at college level is enormous. Penn State is but one example. It is a horrible example, but it isn't alone. In Penn State's case the football program became the university. Joe Paterno became God. Nothing was more important than football, even little kids. It borders evil when the head coach, athletic director, and the president of the university turn a blind eye to child rape. In fact, they enabled it. At Penn State thuggery became pervasive and extended to the very top of the university.

    The penalties were appropriate. Hopefully, other universities will do a gut check. Athletes, their coaches and the universities are not special people, they are not immune from the law, their moral missteps are not excusable. Universities have a duty to teach that to its athletes and students. Sexual abuse, sexual assault and rape are not program perks. Those acts are wrong and they are always wrong. All people who commit such acts are wrong. People and institutions who ignore these acts are wrong. The NCAA made that point this morning. Let's hope all institutions of higher learning "get it."

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Before he announced the punishments....he said they were harsh and the intention is to send a message that FOOTBALL does not come before education and the safety of our children...and for that I support every single sanction....football shouldnt be and cant be more important than a schools mission of education.
    Me too, and I ****ing love college football. Love it.

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