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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    This went on FOR AT LEAST 15 years, thus the vacation of ALL of those wins, yet the sanction money is for 1/15th of that, only a single year's revenue. Even if only 10 children were harmed (a VERY low estimate) that is only $6 million per kid raped, FAR below what a civil jury award is likely to be. Placing money in a victim's fund is NOT the pervue of the NCAA, especilly limitting it to $60 million total, perhaps $60 million per victim or (per year) would be more appropriate. Much like saying we caught you STEALING $900 million so give back $60 million and we will call it all square.
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    this way to extremly excessive for what has taken place..........teams (football, basketball, baseball, ect) are to be penalized for cheating...acadmics, eligiblity whatever....what happend here did not give Penn State an edge on the football field.....a criminal act took place that just happened to be conducted by football staff, prosecute the ones guilty accordingly.....how does revoking scholarships, banning bowls, vacating wins ect. help the victims?......the money ok, i can see that but the "football program" didnt do this to those kids...only a handful of individuals did

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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    The NCAA should also allow current players to transfer without losing a year of eligibility.

    What could a recruiter possibly say that would make a football player competitive at this level want to attend Penn State?

    I also wonder how this situation will affect current and past assistant coaches when they look for new employment opportunities?
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    Its really sad that this is what Paterno will be remembered for. His entire career is now in the toilet. But he could have prevented that from happening so I have no sympathy for him.
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    This is why the sanctions had to be so severe. With the kind of money involved in college football, as this shows some people will do anything to win, and that has to change. It cannot be profitable to hide crimes to protect a football program.
    But it still IS profitable. OK, we KNOW that this went on for at least 15 years, so pony up only 1/15th of that revenue and then split that among the "victims"? In essense this is a ONE YEAR fine for 15 years (minimum) of wrong doing.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    This hurts the football players the most, but the NCAA did right by allowing them to transfer with no penalty because they are not the ones that caused this. Other than that, I cannot be too upset with this.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    The punishment was appropriate, that sports were placed higher than human decency is untenable.

    Paterno is as much a monster as Sandusky, I only hope this serves as a reminder to all these athletic mills that there is nothing more sacred or important than the human beings and the society which they claim to prepare their athletes for.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    "The purpose of the NCAA is to keep a level playing field among schools and to make sure they use proper methods through scholarships and etcetera," the chair said. "This is not a case that would normally go through the process. It has nothing to do with a level playing field. It has nothing to do with whether Penn State gets advantages over other schools in recruiting or in the number of coaches or things that we normally deal with."

    The NCAA, the chair said, had never gotten involved in punishing schools for criminal behavior.

    "The criminal courts are perfectly capable of handling these situations," the former chair said. "This is a new phase and a new thing. They are getting into bad behavior that are somehow connected to those who work in the athletic department.

    "This is an important precedent. And it should be taken with extreme care."
    Penn State Nittany Lions hit with $60 million fine, 4-year bowl ban, wins dating to 1998 - ESPN

    While it is good that the fine is going to help sexually abused children, I am basically in agreement with the sentiments I quoted above. I am not so sure the NCAA should have got involved here.

    I especially do not like how they gutted the program looking forward, and are penalizing players for these actions, the fines and the vacating of past wins I am semi ok with. The reductions of scholarships, and the post season ban penalizes those kids currently in the program (despite everyone being eligible to transfer - this is still quite an upheaval), or those who had committed or are still in high school who have potentially dreamed of playing at PSU should not be penalized for this.
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    Re: Penn State sanctions: $60M, bowl ban

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    this way to extremly excessive for what has taken place..........teams (football, basketball, baseball, ect) are to be penalized for cheating...acadmics, eligiblity whatever....what happend here did not give Penn State an edge on the football field.....a criminal act took place that just happened to be conducted by football staff, prosecute the ones guilty accordingly.....how does revoking scholarships, banning bowls, vacating wins ect. help the victims?......the money ok, i can see that but the "football program" didnt do this to those kids...only a handful of individuals did
    These "individuals" profited HOW? Yep, by getting to keep the football money rolling on in. They decided that little kids getting raped was just not worth risking any football money or fame. That is as sick as it gets. I agree that the players, fans and other's that benefitted did not KNOWINGLY do so, but they none the less benefitted from MANY kids getting raped for many years. This shows just how much power that MONEY has. Punishing those that benefitted from any of this money, just may place MORALITY a notch or two higher on the pay/cost scale. Saying just let bygones be bygones, is not going to sit well with those child rape victims, that were allowed to continue to be abused ONLY because of football money greed.
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    I would rather see those responsible punished than the entire institution, but it is what it is. .
    Since it is such an institutional failure, then the institution IS responsible.
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