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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Don't know what other meaning to draw from that exchange. If that is not what your meant, explain it.
    Exactly what I said. Just because it's LEGAL doesn't mean it's not theft. Just because it's LEGAL, doesn't mean it's not murder. There are FAR better pro tax arguments than simply stating its legality, as if that settles that. Sorry if I was unclear with what I meant.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Exactly what I said. Just because it's LEGAL doesn't mean it's not theft. Just because it's LEGAL, doesn't mean it's not murder. There are FAR better pro tax arguments than simply stating its legality, as if that settles that. Sorry if I was unclear with what I meant.
    You are still unclear. First its theft, then it isn't, then it is again. When you make up your mind if you think taxation is theft or not, please let me know.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are still unclear. First its theft, then it isn't, then it is again. When you make up your mind if you think taxation is theft or not, please let me know.
    I don't think taxation is theft, its simply a necessary evil. But claiming that it's legal is NOT the same as claiming it's not theft. Just like in the FL case. Claiming that Zimmerman's actions were legal (jury still out) is not the same as saying it wasn't murder. Maybe not murder in the eyes of the law. But to anyone with common sense...murder.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I don't think taxation is theft, its simply a necessary evil. But claiming that it's legal is NOT the same as claiming it's not theft.

    Under our Constitution, it is the legal system that determines what is theft and what is not theft. For over a century taxation has been deemed legal under our rule of law.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Under our Constitution, it is the legal system that determines what is theft and what is not theft. For over a century taxation has been deemed legal under our rule of law.
    Legal theft, does not make it not theft. It just makes it legal.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm by no means rich but I would stand with them and their right to protect that which they rightfully and legally own. Besides, people need to understand that, if others can just decide to take property from people on a whim (who defines "rich"? - To some "rich" could be you) then nobody's property would be safe.
    Which means, in the real world rather than in some Master-Slave fantasyland, that if you use your gun to stop someone from shooting at you, then you'll set it up for somebody else to have the right to take your own gun. The non-rich who support the rich are cowards who won't fight back.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Legal theft, does not make it not theft. It just makes it legal.
    Under our constitution, the courts are the entity that decides what is theft and what is not. The Constitution makes no mention of unsubstantiated claims by anonymous far right internet dudes.
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    Is their money so they can have it where they want. How about if they had it under their beds? Would that make it illegal? Once they paid taxes the first time they made the money then I don't have a problem

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Under our Constitution, it is the legal system that determines what is theft and what is not theft. For over a century taxation has been deemed legal under our rule of law.
    Right, so Zimmerman didn't commit murder. Listen, genius, if you take something that isn't yours WITHOUT the express consent of the own, it's theft, I don't give a rats ass what the supreme court says. So, saying it's legal, and therefor, not theft, is a really weak ass argument. Split hairs all you want, its only hurting you, lol. Better argument would be to focus on the express consent part. As in, if people REALY do not grant their consent...and REALY have a problem with...they would do something about...and by NOT doingthung, they are, in essence. Granting their consent, invalidating the theft argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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