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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm by no means rich but I would stand with them and their right to protect that which they rightfully and legally own. Besides, people need to understand that, if others can just decide to take property from people on a whim (who defines "rich"? - To some "rich" could be you) then nobody's property would be safe.
    You'll have to show me where progressive taxes are theft according to our rule of law.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You'll have to show me where progressive taxes are theft according to our rule of law.
    By that reasoning, I can only assume, then, that you also support the concept that, according to the laws of FL, Zimmerman did not murder Martin.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Profit, my friend, profit. Value is added along the way from raw material to finished product, and a profit is added. This means that extra money is lying around to do things with, like making more money. If it weren't so, there'd be no expansion.
    Profit is derived from trading an item for more than you paid to get it. This goes into the relative nature of value alocation, but in no way addresses my point. Yes, the economy can expand via spending profit, but it expands over a period of time, and the amount it can expand within that amount of time is certainly fixed...unles, of course, it exists outside the laws of physics. Again, only so much of anything can be produced in a set amount of time.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    By that reasoning, I can only assume, then, that you also support the concept that, according to the laws of FL, Zimmerman did not murder Martin.
    What does your misinterpretation of the laws of Florida have to do with your misinterpretation of federal taxation law?
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Yes I know that. Point is, we need to banish these people. Not allow them to pick and chose the good things that only they want in each juristiction. (country)
    Lots of stupid hatred there.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What does your misinterpretation of the laws of Florida have to do with your misinterpretation of federal taxation law?
    I have misinterpreted neither. Just as taxation is legal, and therefore, according to you, not theft, then the same applies to "self defense by the aggressor". Since it's perfectly legal FL to kill someone in self defense, even if you were the one that started the fight or created the situation, according to you, it's not murder...based on no other criteria than it's legality.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    If our economy were truly not zero sum, meaning an infinite amount of wealth can be created at any time, we would all be in a world of trouble...we'd likely have rampant inflation, and values for just about everything would remain in a constant state of massive flux. It would be completely unstable, to say the least.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I have misinterpreted neither. Just as taxation is legal, and therefore, according to you, not theft, then the same applies to "self defense by the aggressor". Since it's perfectly legal FL to kill someone in self defense, even if you were the one that started the fight or created the situation, according to you, it's not murder...based on no other criteria than it's legality.
    It was my understanding the trial has not even begun for Zimmerman, yet you have decided he will be found innocent. And, that has absolutely nothing to do with your earlier claim that taxation is theft.

    Please try to focus and stay on topic.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Where did I claim that taxation is theft?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Where did I claim that taxation is theft?
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You'll have to show me where progressive taxes are theft according to our rule of law.
    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    By that reasoning, I can only assume, then, that you also support the concept that, according to the laws of FL, Zimmerman did not murder Martin.

    Don't know what other meaning to draw from that exchange. If that is not what your meant, explain it.
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