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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    You're like Terry Jones' character in Erik the Viking who insists everything is fine even as his head finally slips underwater when his island sinks. I guess some people can't be reasoned with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually advocate steeply progressive taxation to serve as a deterrent to hoarding in the first place.

    Capitalism is concentrative by nature. Some mechanism(s) must be in place to address this.

    2 $100 millionaires are better for the economy than 1 $200 millionaire, 4 $50 millionaires better than 2 $100 millionaires, etc.
    It doesn't need addressing, because it is none of your business how much another has.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Favorable environment also translates into workers receiving a fair wage for the work that makes profit for the business owners. When a CEO gives himself hundreds of times more in compensation than the average employee makes in a year at a business, do you think that that creates a favorable environment where people are willing to work harder?

    You act as if though there is no such thing as greed, VanceMack. And I'm quite tired of the "by your bootstraps" argument. The playing field is not level, and you ought to acknowledge it. Beyond a certain point, you cannot get more wealthy without avarice. The game is fixed for the wealthy, and the imbalance continues to grow.
    Im tired of all the whiny pathetic ****s complaining about how unfair life is and thinking that bitching about others wealth is going to change their pathetic miserable existence. Of COURSE there is greed. Greed isnt necessarily a BAD thing, but even where it IS excessive and a bad thing...big ****ing deal. Other peoples money is NOT YOUR BUSINESS. Life isnt fair.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Beg to differ but yes if I could take a million from a billionaire it would help me. lol

    But I don't need their money and I don't need their kind around me. Everything I have is what I have earned by hard work.

    The Romney are an excellent example of those elite Americans. We have nothing at all in common except the Englilsh language. They don't serve in the military and probably never held a sledgehammer.
    IF they were to swoop in and steal every penny from the wealthy...then what? You think they are just going to dole it out to you? And heres another one of those news flashes...IF they did that...in 10 years most of those rich successful people would be rich and successful again and most of the 'poor' would be right back ion the same spot whining and bitching about how unfair life is. People want to blame the right person for their own wretched existence, they should start with that person staring back at them from a mirror.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    It makes me nervous when people advocate that the already rich should get tax breaks while their employees struggle to pay their mortgage.
    It makes me nervous when people think the purpose of taxes is to prevent others from getting rich or that those who already pay too much of the taxes be taxed even more so to cause the masses to think that the government should spend more on them

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually advocate steeply progressive taxation to serve as a deterrent to hoarding in the first place.

    Capitalism is concentrative by nature. Some mechanism(s) must be in place to address this.

    2 $100 millionaires are better for the economy than 1 $200 millionaire, 4 $50 millionaires better than 2 $100 millionaires, etc.
    Your answer to my question could have been a simple "yes" then.

    I have a savings account. I'm starting to make a little more so I'm able to put more into it. I bet, though, someone else has, what you would think, is a greater need for the money I'm not doing anything with at the moment. Am I "hoarding" my money?

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    lol



    It doesn't need addressing, because it is none of your business how much another has.
    An economy is an artificial construction, designed to distribute resources. If its working correctly everybody gets fatter at about the same RATE.

    Up until around 1980 that was the case, with the poorest actually doing a bit better than the richest.

    If the rising tide isn't lifting all boats, something is malfunctioning in our artificial construct.

    Capitalism is about 500 years old now, probably time for a major service.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Rants such as these greatly diminish your credibility. Referring to lower income individuals and the unemployed as leeches and pets has become quite the mantra as of late, perpetuating the absolutely laughable notion that the number of lazy individuals spiked dramatically overnight, instead of correctly identifying the real causes of our economic woes.
    Nah...not overnight. The number of crippled dependent pets and worthless pathetic ****s have been on the rise since the 60s. Stop worrying about me, my 'rants', and for that matter, stop worrying about the wealthy and first learn, then start teaching your children the value of hard work, preparation, planning for a future, etc. Stop wasting your money on cigarettes, alcohol, cable tv, data plans an a cell phone and all the other **** you cant afford and take care of your families, buy health care. Stop pretending someone else ****ed you over and robbed your precious pennies. Come face to face with the fact that if your life sucks, its probably not too hard to look what and why.

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    An economy is an artificial construction, designed to distribute resources. If its working correctly everybody gets fatter at about the same RATE.

    Up until around 1980 that was the case, with the poorest actually doing a bit better than the richest.

    If the rising tide isn't lifting all boats, something is malfunctioning in our artificial construct.

    Capitalism is about 500 years old now, probably time for a major service.
    To make it look more like what? What has been more successful in raising the standard of living for everybody than capitalism?

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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    IF they were to swoop in and steal every penny from the wealthy...then what? You think they are just going to dole it out to you? And heres another one of those news flashes...IF they did that...in 10 years most of those rich successful people would be rich and successful again and most of the 'poor' would be right back ion the same spot whining and bitching about how unfair life is. People want to blame the right person for their own wretched existence, they should start with that person staring back at them from a mirror.
    If what you say is true, we should do that every ten years.

    It would be GREAT for the economy overall, all that money flowing up then raining down.

    Lets do it and find out if you guys are right. If you are its win-win.
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    Re: Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nah...not overnight. The number of crippled dependent pets and worthless pathetic ****s have been on the rise since the 60s.

    Stop worrying about me, my 'rants', and for that matter, stop worrying about the wealthy and first learn, then start teaching your children the value of hard work, preparation, planning for a future, etc. Stop wasting your money on cigarettes, alcohol, cable tv, data plans an a cell phone and all the other **** you cant afford and take care of your families, buy health care. Stop pretending someone else ****ed you over and robbed your precious pennies. Come face to face with the fact that if your life sucks, its probably not too hard to look what and why.
    Nonsense, what of the sub 5 percent unemployment figures we enjoyed in the late 90's and mid to late 00's? Was the country virtually dripping in "dependent pets" and "pathetic ****s?" The discrepancy in employment figures both in the U.S. and abroad in relation to those of the 60's can easily be attributed to technological advances that have allowed employees to maintain production and profit margins with fewer employees than previously needed. Your rants are both amusing and entertaining, but that's the extent of their use.

    While I'd love to wade through that absolute mess of a paragraph chock full of juicy personal insults and generalizations about just about anyone hovering within shouting distance of the poverty line, I attempt to avoid deliberately wasting more than a mere few seconds on subject matter that happens to be this devoid of thought or meaning.
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