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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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you mean when lefties claim that the rich have x amount of income and then claim that that fact proves that the rich need to be taxed more?

or that the nut case in Colorado had X weapons and that proves that we need to ban said weapons because that would have prevented the killings?

Are you making this up or are you quoting the words of some other poster but conveniently forgetting to give us their name and exact words?
 
Nope. Now get lost.

Yes, we get that you do not know what debate is - you made that clear in an earlier post. And thank you for making it clear with your answer that you do not know what evidence is either.

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Are you making this up or are you quoting the words of some other poster but conveniently forgetting to give us their name and exact words?

I was asking you since you claim to be the authority on this issue if those two examples were what you were thinking of
 
Alls it would take is one guy or gal in the theatre with a concealed carry & a well placed shot & this would have came to an end much earlier with much less loss of life. But leave it to the Liberals to propose more gun control because one pschopath lost his mind. I'd say the Liberals running the movie industry (the sewer pipe) & there love of violence in there movies had more to do with these deaths than my 2nd amendment rights do.

One thing though, I do have to question why someone had to sell this freak a drum magazine, I do think there should be some restrictions on mags this big with perhaps requiring a class 3 permit to aquire one.
 
I think all we can do is pray for the victims and their families. Nothing will explain these instances, they just happen. Bad people doing bad things. They just showed the 6yo little girl that was killed, and her mother was shot twice and is in intensive care. The dad is a mess, understandably.

This bickering back and forth on this forum is making me sick. It's not about gun control, its not about anything other than one lone man with nothing to lose, taking the lives of a dozen innocent people. I think we need to just pray for the Lord to give us understanding about why these things happen. I don't understand it. But as a Christian, I must have faith. Everything happens for a reason. Its up to the living to figure out why.

In the far remote chance that any of the relatives of any of the victims will ever read this, please know that you have our heartfelt prayers and condolences for your loss and that we, as a nation, are with you.

Um, there's a little more to this incident than what the mainstream media is reporting.

This dude is playing out the role of Nolan's Joker in real life. He did take on the appearance of the Joker (i. e. dying his hair red). And recall that in The Dark Knight, the Joker's primary aim in causing mayhem is to expose people's hypocrisy.

And that's likely what Mr. Holmes is doing. In fact, the shooting at the theater did expose one kind of hypocrisy. The moviegoers all went to see that film partially because of a desire to watch realistic brutal mass violence (in fact, people seeing films like that often later bitch about the implausibility of the terror scenes), and the shooter gave it to them like never before. So technically, they shouldn't be upset.

In (supposedly) booby trapping his home and daring officers to defuse the bombs there, he's likely trying to expose the hypocrisy of officers who say they care about the public but are actually more interested in finding out whatever cool secrets are in his room. Obviously, if public safety were the only concern, and the bombs were as difficult to defuse as they appear to be, the safest course of action would be to just evacuate the whole apt. complex and let the building blow. But the cops aren't doing that.

The story line reported in the media is that the shooter set a timer to blare music out of his place at midnight to lure police and other residents into getting blown up while he went on his rampage, but the evidence to date doesn't support that line. If that were Mr. Holmes' intent, to simply cause another explosion at the complex to lure police resources away from the theater, all he would have had to do is set up the bombs to explode when his apt. door was opened.

However he ran trip wires all over the place (including lining the windows with them). So that implies that the above wasn't his plan or at least not entirely his plan. Furthermore, if he simply wanted to blow up his complex and kill more people, he wouldn't have told cops about booby-trapping his place when he was caught, as they would most certainly have tried to search his room at some point and tripped the bomb(s), but he did tell them about it, implying he's got another trick up his sleeve.

The supposed bombs in his apt. are probably duds, or else why go thru the trouble of building real bombs only to tell cops later to watch out for them? Also, it's unclear how this dude would've acquired the expertise to build the sophisticated bombs the cops are saying he built--that kind of thing not only requires extensive training but the purchases of the chemicals required could easily be traced. But the sophisticated wiring in the place would certainly lead authorities to believe that they were real, and I believe that's all he wants.

There's a big surprise waiting for cops at that apt.
 
I was asking you since you claim to be the authority on this issue if those two examples were what you were thinking of

You did not give me any examples. You gave me your interpretation of what you believe others might say. Now you have to find such statements and tell us who they are attributed to.
 
Alls it would take is one guy or gal in the theatre with a concealed carry & a well placed shot & this would have came to an end much earlier with much less loss of life. But leave it to the Liberals to propose more gun control because one pschopath lost his mind. I'd say the Liberals running the movie industry (the sewer pipe) & there love of violence in there movies had more to do with these deaths than my 2nd amendment rights do.

One thing though, I do have to question why someone had to sell this freak a drum magazine, I do think there should be some restrictions on mags this big with perhaps requiring a class 3 permit to aquire one.

if you buy into restricting a beta c mag its easy to buy into restricting a 30 round mag

and there is a reason why the military doesn't issue those things

but the rest of your post is good
 
sure it does. only paranoid conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones thinks its really a secret NWO plot to disarm the public and institute martial law and UN control, and whatever.

only liars or the mentally infirm claim that gun control laws would have stopped this killer or prevented him from getting a gun

booby traps are COMPLETELY ILLEGAL
 
Alls it would take is one guy or gal in the theatre with a concealed carry & a well placed shot & this would have came to an end much earlier with much less loss of life. But leave it to the Liberals to propose more gun control because one pschopath lost his mind. I'd say the Liberals running the movie industry (the sewer pipe) & there love of violence in there movies had more to do with these deaths than my 2nd amendment rights do.

One thing though, I do have to question why someone had to sell this freak a drum magazine, I do think there should be some restrictions on mags this big with perhaps requiring a class 3 permit to aquire one.


There is only one person responsible for this carnage. The pro gun anti gun talk is just Monday quarterbacking.

I wished someone could have pulled a concealed handgun and stopped him but I wasn't there and don't know if someone could have been in the right location to pull it off.
 
You did not give me any examples. You gave me your interpretation of what you believe others might say. Now you have to find such statements and tell us who they are attributed to.

no I don't
 
no I don't

Of course you do not. You can simply show yourself to be impotent to come up with anything that someone actually said.

You can simply allow the reality to sink in that you make it up as you go along and actual evidence means precious little to you.

That works for me also. Although most would not look at such truth as breaking news. ;)
 
only liars or the mentally infirm claim that gun control laws would have stopped this killer or prevented him from getting a gun...

a 20-round limit on all magazines would have slowed him down..and maybe allowed someone to jump his ass and crack his skull.

he may have also not been able to get a handgun permit, if they were required in CO.
 
Of course you do not. You can simply show yourself to be impotent to come up with anything that someone actually said.

You can simply allow the reality to sink in that you make it up as you go along and actual evidence means precious little to you.

That works for me also. Although most would not look at such truth as breaking news. ;)

Is impotent the word of the week? should someone order up some viagra?
 
a 20-round limit on all magazines would have slowed him down..and maybe allowed someone to jump his ass and crack his skull.

he may have also not been able to get a handgun permit, if they were required in CO.

yeah like laws against murder slowed him down too

Moronic
 
Yes, we get that you do not know what debate is - you made that clear in an earlier post. And thank you for making it clear with your answer that you do not know what evidence is either.

In order to avoid the kind of humiliating embarrassment you suffered here tonight when you were impotent to back up your silly claims of historical fact, these may help you

Amazon.com: principles of debate

Nope. Now get lost.
 
There is only one person responsible for this carnage. The pro gun anti gun talk is just Monday quarterbacking.

I wished someone could have pulled a concealed handgun and stopped him but I wasn't there and don't know if someone could have been in the right location to pull it off.

Agreed. As soon as I saw this on the news, I looked at my father in law and said "Here come the anti-gun nuts". Mayor Bloomberg didn't even wait 24 hours before he started up about it. Why is the mayor of a city on the east coast even commenting about something that happend in the mid west? Doesn't he have some Big Gulp sodas to confiscate or something? I applaud President Obama for not diving into that hackery. He and Gov Romney are handling it exactly the way they should, I believe. Knee jerk reactions to tragedy are what get us our worst policies IMO. Clearer heads need to prevail. Wait on the proverbial gun to stop smoking, then discuss attempts at preventing this stuff from happening again.
 
is that your argument for making murder...legal?

cause it doesn't stop the sick & homicidal?

No, his point is (and you know it) that only the law abiding citizen follows laws. People that concern themselves with laws are not the people we should worry about. Laws do nothing but impose penalties for crimes. They do not prevent anything when considering this type of individual. This man had to know that the death penalty is permitted in Colorado. Yet he still did this. Guns could be outlawed in the US. He still would have found a way. You cannot legislate nor restrict evil. Evil will rear its ugly head no matter how many laws there are.
 
No, his point is (and you know it) that only the law abiding citizen follows laws. People that concern themselves with laws are not the people we should worry about. Laws do nothing but impose penalties for crimes. They do not prevent anything when considering this type of individual. This man had to know that the death penalty is permitted in Colorado. Yet he still did this. Guns could be outlawed in the US. He still would have found a way. You cannot legislate nor restrict evil. Evil will rear its ugly head no matter how many laws there are.

laws effect more than just the homicidal nut.

they also effect the sane gun-dealer..and the sane ammo-seller...and the sane magazine-seller.

this guy didn't make his own gun, bullets, and magazines.
 
laws effect more than just the homicidal nut.

they also effect the sane gun-dealer..and the sane ammo-seller...and the sane magazine-seller.

this guy didn't make his own gun, bullets, and magazines.

Its the same as Prohibition. You outlaw guns, you create a nasty underworld that results in only the people dealing in it having guns. The law abiding citizens are left to tasers and knives. I actually agree that the 100 round drum should be illegal however. If the military doesn't need it, civilians definitely don't. There's no practical application for a 100 round drum.
 
Its the same as Prohibition. You outlaw guns, you create a nasty underworld that results in only the people dealing in it having guns. The law abiding citizens are left to tasers and knives. I actually agree that the 100 round drum should be illegal however. If the military doesn't need it, civilians definitely don't. There's no practical application for a 100 round drum.

#1. No one is talking about outlawing guns, certainly not me.

#2. I appreciate you finding common ground on the magazine-size issue.
 
I was a world class ISU skeet shooter ISU skeet was designed to train us to shoot down martian flying saucers

ISU Double trap was designed to teach us how to deal with 2 saucers

I guess you think the only purpose of a knife is to kill as well


Why should anyone take your posts seriously when you post such oozing emotobabbling drivel?
Then why don't you try buttering your bread with your gun?
 
There is only one person responsible for this carnage. The pro gun anti gun talk is just Monday quarterbacking.

I wished someone could have pulled a concealed handgun and stopped him but I wasn't there and don't know if someone could have been in the right location to pull it off.
The amount of armor he had would have made a kill very difficult, not sure what level of armor he had though. That said it still hurts like a sumbitch to get shot even with most body armor and force transferrence could have at least dropped him long enough to attempt a detainment. All that said it is going to be monday morning quarterbacking.
 
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