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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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Hindsight is always 20/20. Nobody ever thinks that some guy they know is going to walk into a theater and shoot as many people as he can. It's one of those things that's just too "out there" to believe until it happens, even after so many prior spree killers. I think instead of throwing this one away like the others, we need to actually study him, and get a better look into the psychology of spree killers so warning signs can be discovered. I'll bet they aren't obvious at all to someone who doesn't know what to look for.

But that would be a rational approach to the situation. What is more likely is trying to spin it into something political.
 
relevent sidenote: my friend posted on FB a few days ago "kill the boss".

Im gonna talk to him right now.

Good idea.

If Holmes was on a forum talking about this .. WHY WHY WHY egg him on?

People are really awful.
 
The initial reports make this sound organized and planned, if more than one shooter I personally suspect jihadi or similar anti-western / anti-American motivation. Too many dead and injured, my prayers go out to all the effected people and families.

Since the majority of these terrorist attacks in the US are committed by white males, why assume Jihad? Islamophobia?
 
But that would be a rational approach to the situation. What is more likely is trying to spin it into something political.

Which results in people feeling victimized, as we've seen in this thread - as if the media were shining a spotlight on them, and them in particular, as they drive the nails into their wrists. It's really pathetic that anyone, Left or Right, falls for it.

There are two sets of victims in this catastrophe: the fourteen dead in Aurora and the American citizens who let the media lead them into an orgy of incrimination yet again. It's all a ratings game.
 
Since the majority of these terrorist attacks in the US are committed by white males, why assume Jihad? Islamophobia?
We should never assume anything. White fascists are the most likely to commit these types of terrorist attacks (which technically this could be described as one) But there are so many that are also committed by Islamic groups. The failed NYC bombing. The black father son DC sniper attacks...

Most likely yes, that a white fascist would commit mass murder on innocents in a public place of work or entertainmet, but not so likely that others who are not are like a needle in a haystack.
 
Somebody posting as Jamesholmes154.. said he was going to shoot up a theater.

Problem with that is, how do you know that's what he's actually saying he's going to do, or if it's just hyperbole out of frustration? There's more too it than that.
 
Problem with that is, how do you know that's what he's actually saying he's going to do, or if it's just hyperbole out of frustration? There's more too it than that.

No way of knowing..

Still.. a guy drops out of school.. Somebody must have noticed he was troubled.
 
No way of knowing..

Still.. a guy drops out of school.. Somebody must have noticed he was troubled.

"Somebody must have noticed" doesn't translate to "somebody could have stopped this."

A friend says, "I'm going to kill myself." You think he just might. Who do you go to? Call the police? They won't help. Go to his family? Perhaps they will talk to your friend and try to get him some help. Unless someone is plotting something specific, there's really not much our legal system or friends or family can do to stop it.

We've got to study people like this to find out what triggers a seemingly normal guy to want to shoot up a movie theater and kill 50 people. When we arrest them, we have to do a tox screen. And when they're dead? We've got to autopsy their brains. There is something going on chemically in their bodies, I'm sure of it.
 
I have a fifty-cent solution for this killer. A bullet between the eyes. This maggot, P.O.S. deserves to die very slow and painfully.

Can you believe this scumbag here is politicizing this tradegy? ----> Tea Party Congressman Links Colorado Shooting To Attacks On Christianity | ThinkProgress

Sounds like there are all sorts of scumbags politicizing the tragedy. Is there nothing that doesn't support someone's political agenda in one way or another?

and anything said about the motivation is simply wild speculation at this point, isn't it?
 
"Somebody must have noticed" doesn't translate to "somebody could have stopped this."

A friend says, "I'm going to kill myself." You think he just might. Who do you go to? Call the police? They won't help. Go to his family? Perhaps they will talk to your friend and try to get him some help. Unless someone is plotting something specific, there's really not much our legal system or friends or family can do to stop it.

We've got to study people like this to find out what triggers a seemingly normal guy to want to shoot up a movie theater and kill 50 people. When we arrest them, we have to do a tox screen. And when they're dead? We've got to autopsy their brains. There is something going on chemically in their bodies, I'm sure of it.

If the media reports are true (big if), it seems like the guy's mother knew there was something severely off with him. I mean, if there was a mass murder in Miami and the press called my mom, I'm pretty sure her first reaction wouldn't be, "they've got the right guy."

Pretty sure. ;)
 
In an apartment rental application he submitted early last year, Holmes described himself as a "quiet and easy-going" student. Other tenants in his building — which is reserved for students, faculty and staff of the medical campus — described him as a recluse.

A pharmacy student who also lives in the building told The Post he called 911 around 12:30 a.m. because there was a song blaring from the stereo inside apartment 10, where Holmes lived. The student, who wanted to be identified only as Ben, said he couldn't make out the song but that it seemed to be the same one playing on repeat.

He also said Holmes kept to himself and wouldn't acknowledge people when they passed in the hall and said hello.

"No one knew him. No one," Ben said.

Read more: Authorities: Aurora theater shooting suspect's apartment "booby trapped" - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...#ixzz21BH7yjRG
 
I have a fifty-cent solution for this killer. A bullet between the eyes. This maggot, P.O.S. deserves to die very slow and painfully.

Can you believe this scumbag here is politicizing this tradegy? ----> Tea Party Congressman Links Colorado Shooting To Attacks On Christianity | ThinkProgress

Sadly, people on all sides use tragedies like these to politicize whatever agenda they advocate. I'm not surprised in the least. Disgusted? Absolutely. Even CNN had separate links to Obama and Romney's reaction like it was to be used for some tactical political advantage. Like one person would express sympathy more than the other one or god forbid, one would take the incident lightly. This is the world we live in now.
 
Sounds like there are all sorts of scumbags politicizing the tragedy. Is there nothing that doesn't support someone's political agenda in one way or another?

and anything said about the motivation is simply wild speculation at this point, isn't it?

I think I read that the family in San Deigo were very active in their church.
 
No way of knowing..

Still.. a guy drops out of school.. Somebody must have noticed he was troubled.

A lot of people are troubled, the economy sucks, people are loosing their jobs and their homes, but that doesn't mean they're going to grab a rifle and start shooting people. There's a psychological element to this that is being ignored, and it's not as simple as the guy was troubled. We all have problems.
 
A lot of people are troubled, the economy sucks, people are loosing their jobs and their homes, but that doesn't mean they're going to grab a rifle and start shooting people. There's a psychological element to this that is being ignored, and it's not as simple as the guy was troubled. We all have problems.

I know............
 
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