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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I am not saying there are no good people. I know there are. But in country of 312 million people I bet you couldnt find more than a 10 million people who dont have hate for a group of people.
    you are possibly correct, as we do have a large number of white supremacist & Neo-Nazi hate groups in the USA.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so that fact that we have Germans, Italians, Jews, Irish, Scots, Russians, Poles, and English......means that we will automatically have a higher crime rate?

    that's dumb and intellectually absurd.
    are you able to explain how are like usual are you just spewing garbage statements. you can look at the numbers. we are one of the most violent countries in the world, and we are one of the most culturally diverse. I havent looked up the numbers exactlly but for countries not at war i bet we are the most violent in the world. and i am pretty sure we are the most culturally diverse. there is more anger and hate in this country than any where else
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you are possibly correct, as we do have a large number of white supremacist & Neo-Nazi hate groups in the USA.
    there are alot more hate groups that
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    ^ I bet he mentions something like NAACP
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sure, an American on welfare and food stamps and living in subsidized housing is rich compared to a Kenyan back-woods village farmer... but that isn't relevant to the effect of poverty on our culture in terms of crime.

    Poverty is relative to the nation's norms, and to the gap between the haves and have-nots, which is growing. Half the country looks at the other half with envy today, because of that gap. That contributes to hate and coveting what others in your culture have that you do not.
    being envious doenst make them poor. when most of our country is considered poor, then poor is the standard. and if it is the standard then the standard could be considered too high. the gap is growing and in my opinion the poor are more to blame than anyone for the gap but that isnt the topic of this discussion but i'd love to have that conversation with you if you like in an appropiate thread.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Uh. You mean ninety-something percent looks at a tiny fraction of the superrich.

    In some cases, yes, you have the poor-to-struggling looking at Lifestyles of The Rich and Shameless and envying. But you also have the 35-50% of the population that can barely/not-quite afford what American norms consider a "decent lifestyle"... a reasonably comfortable home with electricity and air conditioning, a car that doesn't break down every month and isn't covered in Bondo or rust, health care insurance that covers important stuff adequately, a decent diet, and a little something left over for savings and entertainment, looking at the half of the population living in knocked-up-in-a-month McMansions, driving new 30k+ vehicles, and vacationing in Florida twice a year and feeling left out.

    Sure, some of it is failing to pursue education and opportunities or laziness, but not all of it by a long shot. One factor is simply that blue-collar jobs in most states don't pay a living wage anymore, like they did in the 1950's and 60's. There are a lot of factors like outsourcing and cheap illegal labor, but thats a big subject all by itself and I don't want to derail the thread.

    Suffice it to say that the PERCEPTION of being poor has a dramatic effect on crime rates, and that perception is based on what appears to be the norms in your culture, not in someone else's culture.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you are possibly correct, as we do have a large number of white supremacist & Neo-Nazi hate groups in the USA.
    Not to mention a DOJ that permits dead or alive bounties to be openly posted for selected citizens, IFF that group is not racist. LOL
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    ^ I bet he mentions something like NAACP

    The NAACP is more like an "envy and litigate" group than a hate group.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In some cases, yes, you have the poor-to-struggling looking at Lifestyles of The Rich and Shameless and envying. But you also have the 35-50% of the population that can barely/not-quite afford what American norms consider a "decent lifestyle"... a reasonably comfortable home with electricity and air conditioning, a car that doesn't break down every month and isn't covered in Bondo or rust, health care insurance that covers important stuff adequately, a decent diet, and a little something left over for savings and entertainment, looking at the half of the population living in knocked-up-in-a-month McMansions, driving new 30k+ vehicles, and vacationing in Florida twice a year and feeling left out.

    Sure, some of it is failing to pursue education and opportunities or laziness, but not all of it by a long shot. One factor is simply that blue-collar jobs in most states don't pay a living wage anymore, like they did in the 1950's and 60's. There are a lot of factors like outsourcing and cheap illegal labor, but thats a big subject all by itself and I don't want to derail the thread.

    Suffice it to say that the PERCEPTION of being poor has a dramatic effect on crime rates, and that perception is based on what appears to be the norms in your culture, not in someone else's culture.
    I think the problem is that the decent lifestyle that the wage provided in the 50's and 60's is no longer considered a decent lifestyle. It is very much perception. A perception that because all these new products come out, that if you can't afford one you are somehow a victim of those who can.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    there are alot more hate groups that
    they are the most dangerous ones.

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