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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think the American culture is rife with the adoration of violence. It's in our love of guns, fascination with military, sports, TV, video games, movies, etc. On top of that we're creating a whole generation of spoiled brats that are digital idiots who can't differentiate fantasy from reality.
    Canada has the same video games/movies, etc so I'm not sure how that plays out.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We have a differnt demographic than those countries.
    I'd be interesting in reading the demographic differences between the US and Canada. What source did you use?

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I'd be interesting in reading the demographic differences between the US and Canada. What source did you use?
    Here are a few:

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You are dead on with a lot of this. But what compounds the culture that glorifies violence is we have created a culture full of anger, violence, disrespect, cockiness, selfishness, and hate. The vast majority (and by a very large amount) of Americans are full of hate. We see it almost all day everyday. People walk around proclaiming their hatred for America. In our very own country people hate it. Those that don't hate America hate those who do. We have people here that hate black people. Then we have those who hate those people. We have those who hate gays then we have the gay rights supporters who hate everyone who disagrees with them. We have groups of women who just hate men. A lot of people here hate muslims and any one middle eastern decent. Almost the entire liberal movement hates white people and christians. Christians hating everyone who isnt christian. We have people who hate organized society, and we have people who hate people who support anarchy. People hate the police. Most black people are taught to hate white people and white people are taught to be scared of black people. THe rich hate the poor and the poor hate the rich. Politicians are laughing at us all they spend billions of dolllars that could be far better used pitting us against each other making the left hate the right and the right hate the left. The hate in this country is astounding. Even those who oppose hate only oppose it for certain groups that have been historically mistreated and those groups who oppose hate, generally hate the groups and people who havent been historically mistreated. This list can go on forever.

    And what makes this hate even worse is we all believe we are right. We all believe our hatred is justified. We believe the rest the nation is wrong. Americans are full of hate and cocky beyond belief. We are individually so cocky that respect is a rarity. Even people we dont hate seem to get no respect. Elders and authority figures are the most disrespected people in this country and very few care.

    When you take the massive amount of hate the people of this country have, the anger for no damn reason, the cockiness, the attitudes, the disrespect for each other and lets not forget all the self entitlement compounding with the over bearing sense of you have to succeed and you have to do it now because we have no patience I dont see how things like this happening come as a surprise to anyone. These events are occurring more and more frequently because the above things in this country are getting worse. These events are not going to stop. They are going to increase. Things are going to just keep getting worse and worse. Our nation has absulutely no sense of community any longer. No one gives a **** about anyone other than themselves, well very few do, and most of those who do are usually pretending for their own selfish interests.
    Some of what you say is true, but you go too far. There are people who care very much for others, who are respectful and tolerant of differences, and who try to make a difference. And they come from all backgrounds and philosophies. Increasingly, it seems to me too, the world is growing uglier...but that doesn't mean that there is not beauty and goodness and kindness to be found among us all.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    We have 4x the rate of Canada and England/Wales. Canada is the better example due to geography and culture. Why do we have quadruple rates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We have a different demographic than those countries.
    It's unfortunate that we can't have the discussion we're skipping around, acknowledging certain 800 lb. gorillas might go a long way towards our growth as a united people. We can't have the conversations we need to have, though. Politically incorrect.

    Comparing the U.S. to any other country is like comparing apples to oranges (or apples to orangutans). No other country has anything quite like our history, our culture, or our demographics. Just saying.

    Something else one of my Canadian friends noted after spending most of the winter here in the States: “You guys are really trained to hate yourselves, you know that?” She was right, pride in Country and our fellow citizens isn't a subject we hear a lot about.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Some of what you say is true, but you go too far. There are people who care very much for others, who are respectful and tolerant of differences, and who try to make a difference. And they come from all backgrounds and philosophies. Increasingly, it seems to me too, the world is growing uglier...but that doesn't mean that there is not beauty and goodness and kindness to be found among us all.
    i dont mean to imply everyone. but by far the vast majority of people in this country hate others. there are plenty of people who are willing to help people sure, but the majority of them are selective of who they will help. Some people will only help christians, or only help minorities, or only help children ect Very few people are tolerant even when they think they are. hell, very few people understand what being tolerant or compassionate really is.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We have a differnt demographic than those countries.
    yes, we have a higher poverty rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, we have a higher poverty rate.
    Most Americans dont know what poverty is. Our poverty rate is high because our standard for poverty is high. Very few Americans live in the conditions people in poverty in other countries do. Very few Americans have no means of getting a meal on a given day.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    what does our ethnic make-up have to do with our crime-rate?

    nothing at all, unless one is going to argue that brown & black people are genetically prone to commit crime.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Most Americans dont know what poverty is. Our poverty rate is high because our standard for poverty is high. Very few Americans live in the conditions people in poverty in other countries do. Very few Americans have no means of getting a meal on a given day.
    Poverty is subjective by country. Our standards of poverty is nowhere close to most of the rest of the World - which isn't surprising given our ignorance of the World. When someone only knows about America and our standard of living, they have only that to compare it to. It's silly to think someone would compare our poverty to that of a Third World Country.
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