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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Seems like a pretty damned good reason to reinstate stricter limits on assault-style weapons and especially oversized clips. Could happen if Romney wins.

    According to the Aurora police chief the shooter had at least one 100-round, barrel-type magazine.
    Mean while our military can use wtf they want. The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment wasn't to ensure people could hunt ya know. But to ensure that the general populace was never ruled by a tyrannical government. Fat lot of good the 2nd amendment is going to be in that department if we're all restricted to single shot rifles...if that.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Guys...why are we debating whether stricter or looser gun laws would have prevented this? We don't know what this guy's intentions were, let alone how he stockpiled a miniature arsenal. We're not even 24 hours removed from the incident.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Yep, just 12 collateral casualties in the quest to have absolute guns rights.

    Funny, we have less than a handful of people voting that should not be so we have to rush to implement all kinds of voter ID laws so it never happens again; but God forbid that someone should suggest a little bit of tightening on the availability of assault weapons, after half a dozen or so of shooting rampages where lots of people actually died and we have to waive the Constitution and say "hell no" we will give NOTHING. Sorry, but the Regressives have no sense of reality or humanity.

    You can pry this gun from my cold dead hands.... cold because that is the temperature of blood that circulates in the Regressive blood system.
    The giffords shooter didn't have an, "assault weapon". The VA Tech shooter didn't have an assault weapon.

    In reality, we're lucky this clown didn't use the shotgun he was using as his primary weapon. That would have caused more casualties with fewer rounds. Don't hear any calls to out law pump shotguns. I guess they would be next, since the degredation of our rights is gradual.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The giffords shooter didn't have an, "assault weapon". The VA Tech shooter didn't have an assault weapon.

    In reality, we're lucky this clown didn't use the shotgun he was using as his primary weapon. That would have caused more casualties with fewer rounds. Don't hear any calls to out law pump shotguns. I guess they would be next, since the degredation of our rights is gradual.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I think so too.. and I think he was ASKED to leave school because he was so creepy and getting worse.
    You're making **** up like you always do.

    If my old college would have asked every creepy person to leave there wouldn't have been many left on campus.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't even reply to people who would use a tragedy as an agenda item anymore, I can't remain civil enough.
    Yeah, I know what you mean....


    (CBS News) In a radio interview Friday morning, Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas associated the Colorado mass shooting that's left at least 12 people dead to "attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs."
    GOP Rep. links shooting to "attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    This event is a perfectly good reason why I always wait until a movie is out on DVD before watching it.... but that's just me.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    but Turtle when does it stop? Should I start training my son how to use a semi-auto and then when hes 6-7 send him to school armed just in case **** goes down? Do I arm myself for Church? Do I arm myself to go out to the bar with my freinds? I dont think that as a soceity we are capable to continue along those kind of rules. From what I gather your a good shot, your respect guns and so do your family but you are in a minority! Unless we can starting teaching guns in School I do not see how it will work!

    A good and thoughtful post. There is a question at the center of discussions like this and it is a profound one with wide implications for our nation: to what extent do we want to be an armed society where individual citizens take it upon themselves to dispense justice through the use of those weapons?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't even reply to people who would use a tragedy as an agenda item anymore, I can't remain civil enough.
    A serious question for you and other who feel this way: if one is not suppose to "use" actual real events that have occurred in our society to foster discussion and put forth suggestions and ideas as how to avoid such things, what is suppose to help drive and motivate the national discourse on this topic?

    What is so inherently wrong with adding this movie theater massacre to the long and growing list of firearm massacres that have occurred and then asking relevant questions about it?

    This has happened before.

    This will happen again.

    We have a nation where guns are widespread and readily available. We have the Constitution which protects the right to bear arms. I believe this is mostly a good and positive thing in which the benefits out weigh the negatives. However, there are negatives. There is a downside. And a dozen movie goers were simply the latest to pay the ultimate price as part of that downside.

    So what is so inherently wrong with having an honest discussion when these thing occur?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A good and thoughtful post. There is a question at the center of discussions like this and it is a profound one with wide implications for our nation: to what extent do we want to be an armed society where individual citizens take it upon themselves to dispense justice through the use of those weapons?

    The entire problem with an unarmed society is that only the good guys would be unarmed. Thats the way its always been. This nutcase kid would have gotten the means to do what he did if there were strict and enforced gun laws.
    You people always use Prohibition as an example to legalize weed...the same applies to guns, ban them and theres going to be alot of people getting rich off importing them illegally and selling them. YOU CANT STOP THE BAD GUYS from getting guns..
    If there were of people armed in that theatre...death and injuries wouldnt have been prevented because of him having the jump on everyone the element of surprise and the initial shock and fear of everyone...but a 40 caliber glock, 9mil or +P rounds bouncing off a kevlar vest if not knocking him on his ass and disabling him ..would certainly stop him from continuing to fire and if there was anyone trained and realized he was wearing a vest, could have went for leg or head shots...VESTS only protect the largest target area on your person...your chest...there would be no dead cops if they did any more.
    If the No guns folks have their way...every nut like this knows any group of people are defenseless easy pickins...and they are easy pickins for any nutjob hellbent on killing people..

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