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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Although the trailer has now been yanked, one of the previews before the movie began showed a gunman shooting people in a darkened theater. According to one witness, when the gunman came back in the door, he thought what was being tossed were fake bats. People thought this was a hoax, a joke.

    Bodies of dead removed from Aurora theater; 12 killed, 58 wounded - The Denver Post
    I honestly would have thought something was up just for the fact that this movie didn't need any gimmicks, it was expected to do well. However I certainly can see why people at first would think the opposite, movies for the longest time have run promotions of all sorts.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    properly trained marksman or not you can not guarentee that a stray bullet will not hit an innocent in a situation like that. Too many factors at play to be able to say outright that a marksman would of been able to end the situation safely.
    Correct. You also can't guarantee that you won't get hit by a car. Or that you won't slip in the bathtub. Life has risks. I'm not saying that an armed veteran or three would have changed the course of events for the better, but it's silly to suggest that, in a gunfight, the best possible scenario is for one side to be unarmed.

    Some would prefer to be led like cows to the slaughter, and that is their right. I would prefer to defend my life, also my right.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and its just not somthing we can stop! If sick people want to carry out these kind of events we will always struggle to stop them unless of course we start posting armed police at cinemas, schools etc which I think most people on here would agree is a step in the wrong direction. The US would start to become more like the UK with CCTV on every cornor (big brother watching your every move).
    Yep. I think if we started to look at things like medications and trying to revive the nuclear family we could alleviate some of the problems, but even then I don't know how to accomplish that. I definitely don't want lockdowns everywhere I go and assume no one else wants that either.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yep. I think if we started to look at things like medications and trying to revive the nuclear family we could alleviate some of the problems, but even then I don't know how to accomplish that. I definitely don't want lockdowns everywhere I go and assume no one else wants that either.
    and as I have said before banning guns wont solve anything either people always find a way, just look at the knife crime rates in the UK.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash View Post
    Correct. You also can't guarantee that you won't get hit by a car. Or that you won't slip in the bathtub. Life has risks. I'm not saying that an armed veteran or three would have changed the course of events for the better, but it's silly to suggest that, in a gunfight, the best possible scenario is for one side to be unarmed.

    Some would prefer to be led like cows to the slaughter, and that is their right. I would prefer to defend my life, also my right.
    im a vet and if I was in that Cinema my first concern would of been my family and getting them to safety, Its hard to put myself in their shoes but I dont think I could of started engaging the gunmen until I got my family out of there.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I honestly would have thought something was up just for the fact that this movie didn't need any gimmicks, it was expected to do well. However I certainly can see why people at first would think the opposite, movies for the longest time have run promotions of all sorts.
    I've also read that some theater-goers also wore costumes. If so, this could've added to the confusion. (I thought people only dressed up for "Rocky Horror.")

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    im a vet and if I was in that Cinema my first concern would of been my family and getting them to safety, Its hard to put myself in their shoes but I dont think I could of started engaging the gunmen until I got my family out of there.
    There were a half dozen active military and reservists in the theater. But, a crazy person.. a criminal always has the advantage.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    I read this online and I think it's spot on:

    "The proliferation of guns, the lack of access to mental health services, a pervasive sense of isolation, glorification of violence in our society all create conditions that lead to such tragedies."



    All the rest is meaningless and there is the answer
    I believe Mr. Holmes may have had schizophrenia or some other mental illness which manifests itself in delusional thinking. He was isolative and withdrawn so it would have been difficult to detect and treat as he was not demonstrably violent or obtuse until this incident. He had stated he was the "Joker" as reported by the authorities.


    I also generally agree with the above statement.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    There were a half dozen active military and reservists in the theater. But, a crazy person.. a criminal always has the advantage.
    exactly they are sitting with their family enjoying a film and when the gunfire starts those men/women are trying to get out and protect their families. You can train for war but nothing can prepare you for that.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I believe Mr. Holmes may have had schizophrenia or some other mental illness which manifests itself in delusional thinking. He was isolative and withdrawn so it would have been difficult to detect and treat as he was not demonstrably violent or obtuse until this incident. He had stated he was the "Joker" as reported by the authorities.


    I also generally agree with the above statement.
    I think so too.. and I think he was ASKED to leave school because he was so creepy and getting worse.

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