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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    in terms of US gun law what does "A well regulated Militia" mean today? Not trying to stir the pot just curious.
    it mean that the call for the muster (or the call up as they call it in the UK) had been given, the militia had been formed, officers elected and a mission embarked upon

    as opposed to the unorganized militia-ie citizens with weaponry and skills who had not yet been asked to muster

    well regulated meant the militia was in working order, with officers etc

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    I don't get the gun politics in this at all.

    He was dressed in body armor so it isn't likely that other people having guns would have helped. So using this situation to argue against gun control makes no sense.

    If he hadn't been able to buy guns then he would have simply used explosives. He apparently had the know-how given that he booby trapped his apartment. So using this situation to argue for gun control makes no sense.

    Making this a gun control debate is pretty stupid.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes, those innocents paid the ultimate price for a society with our particular freedoms. Unfortunately for you, the folks at MSNBC has nothing to do with it.
    It's a good thing that this wacko didn't fire bomb the place with homade napalm made from Tide, vasoline and gas. We would't be able to wash our clothes.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    in terms of US gun law what does "A well regulated Militia" mean today? Not trying to stir the pot just curious.
    It originally referred to "The Unorganized Militia", meaning all able-bodied armed free men. In the context of the time, in military terms "well regulated" meant properly armed, trained, disciplined and ready for combat.

    Today it is assumed to refer to the citizenry in general.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    in terms of US gun law what does "A well regulated Militia" mean today? Not trying to stir the pot just curious.
    Pretty much what the SCOTUS says it means.
    What does the term "arms" mean today? Certainly not muskets and cannon.
    Not firearms only, either.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's a good thing that this wacko didn't fire bomb the place with homade napalm made from Tide, vasoline and gas. We would't be able to wash our clothes.
    Yup, and it is good we decided to run our cars with something other than an explosive material ;D...
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    It's cute when you try to answer a question with a question...it shows you can't actually answer the original question.

    Owning a gun, any gun, is not what "allowed" this to happen.

    An individual choosing to BREAK THE LAW allowed this to happen.
    I have this question: if a guy wants to rob a bank, and he has a .38 police revolver to help him carry it out, and he decides that he wants to "scare" the public and bank employees into submission first, and he has in front of him and M-80 and a hand grenade; which one should he choose?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    While I don't disagree, the average citizen - at a Batman premiere nonetheless - isn't trained like a Green Beret or Ranger.
    And that would make them just as dangerous as the shooter.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't get the gun politics in this at all.

    He was dressed in body armor so it isn't likely that other people having guns would have helped. So using this situation to argue against gun control makes no sense.

    If he hadn't been able to buy guns then he would have simply used explosives. He apparently had the know-how given that he booby trapped his apartment. So using this situation to argue for gun control makes no sense.

    Making this a gun control debate is pretty stupid.
    If you had read the thread, you would have learned that body armor doesn't make someone invicible.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's a good thing that this wacko didn't fire bomb the place with homade napalm made from Tide, vasoline and gas. We would't be able to wash our clothes.
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