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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    He popped smoke first. That and the ensuing chaos likely made it damned difficult to identify and shoot him. He, on the other hand, didn't give a rat's ass who he shot.
    The smoke could have worked to a defender's advantage.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think it is what we call wishful thinking
    Ah. Thank you for the clarification.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    It's still pure speculation. You can't know how the neurons in your brain will fire, you can't know if you'll have a massive release of epinephrine, how your Thymus, Amygdala, or Hypothalamus will react.
    Actually, I'm pretty well crisis tested. Been through explosive gas leaks without breaking a sweat, been knifed, been assaulted, etc. and I can tell you I have an incredibly low fear factor. I get where you are going at but there are people who know exactly what they are capable of.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The smoke could have worked to a defender's advantage.
    In terms of HIDING, stayin glow, hoping to not get shot, YES.


    In terms of returning fire, without killing anyone besides the aggressor?

    Not so much.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Actually, I'm pretty well crisis tested. Been through explosive gas leaks without breaking a sweat, been knifed, been assaulted, etc. and I can tell you I have an incredibly low fear factor. I get where you are going at but there are people who know exactly what they are capable of.
    Even untested folks will act in an apparently selfless manner. I'm one of those guys that "doesn't think". Never been stabbed on nothing, but I've had a few close calls from falling, while just trying to grab another guy from falling. I used to work up high, on buildings and such, and I've saved a couple guys from bad spills, without even THINKING about the danger it put ME in, until after the fact. Then I realize..."Woa...I could have just died...why didn't I think that through a little better?"


    Some people simply see what needs to be done, and do, and then think about it later.


    Sad that those people tend to end up dead, eh, lol?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Actually, I'm pretty well crisis tested. Been through explosive gas leaks without breaking a sweat, been knifed, been assaulted, etc. and I can tell you I have an incredibly low fear factor. I get where you are going at but there are people who know exactly what they are capable of.
    Yes, there are.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Even untested folks will act in an apparently selfless manner. I'm one of those guys that "doesn't think". Never been stabbed on nothing, but I've had a few close calls from falling, while just trying to grab another guy from falling. I used to work up high, on buildings and such, and I've saved a couple guys from bad spills, without even THINKING about the danger it put ME in, until after the fact. Then I realize..."Woa...I could have just died...why didn't I think that through a little better?"


    Some people simply see what needs to be done, and do, and then think about it later.


    Sad that those people tend to end up dead, eh, lol?
    On the bright side, a hero dies only once.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    On the bright side, a hero dies only once.
    Yeah, but I got a family now. I have a responsibility to live as a coward rather than die a hero, you know?

    Not saying had I been in that situation, I would have done NOTHING hoping to live...can't say. Never been shot at by anything of high caliber than a BB gun, lol. I imagine, had I been there, so, too, would my wife, and MY instinct would have been to lay on the floor, and make my wife do the same. Let him shoot at the panicky people running for the exits...but who knows. Certainly not me. ****, I can't even get my mind wrapped around what a possible motive could be for this.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm still trying to find out why the options "suck worse" when they get the majority of people out alive. What I'm seeing in your posts and the other "it's about having a gun" people on this forum is this dichotomy of "die or shoot someone." That's an incredibly false dichotomy.
    Well, considering that this guy would have no problem shooting you in the back while you're trying to reach the exit, had blood on his clothing according to statements so he was shooting people point blank and at close range, and obviously would have shot someone trying to duck and cover I'd say the option that really sucks is going out like a victim.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    In terms of HIDING, stayin glow, hoping to not get shot, YES.


    In terms of returning fire, without killing anyone besides the aggressor?

    Not so much.
    I was thinking more in terms of using the smoke to conceal my movement to a more advantagious position from which to subdue the shooter.

    But, I think that way...some folks just want to do nothing and hope they're not the one that gets hurt.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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