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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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Goshin said:
Gotta love the title to this thread and some of the media articles as well: "Gun attack at Batman premiere...."


Makes it sound like the gun attacked all by itself. Damn I wish I could teach my gun how to do that.... do you have to send it to gun obedience school, or is there some "Gun Whisperer" guy who can teach them to attack on their own?


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you must be thinking of those SMART GUNS the liberals wanted to develop

Turtle to his smith and wesson

Hey pistol, some asshole is out in the living room stealing the TV-go shoot his ass off

S&W to turtle-YOur wish is my command



blam blam blam


Got him boss-do you want me to call the coroner?
 
I am far more interested in knowing what went on in Holmes mind...what drove him to commit this atrocity.... and in that knowledge to prevent future acts like this...instead of blabbing on and on and on about guns .......omg!!!!! am I the only one???????????????
 
Goshin said:
Gotta love the title to this thread and some of the media articles as well: "Gun attack at Batman premiere...."


Makes it sound like the gun attacked all by itself. Damn I wish I could teach my gun how to do that.... do you have to send it to gun obedience school, or is there some "Gun Whisperer" guy who can teach them to attack on their own?


:lamo
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It reminds me of a few years back, when we were seeing headlines of "SUV kills family of 5", and similar articles. :lol:
 
Sig said:
Because there is something wrong with your brain.
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So when you are impotent to back up the claims you made during debate about an issue of American history you then resort to playground insults found on the elementary school playground.

Interesting.
 
Mya said:
I am far more interested in knowing what went on in Holmes mind...what drove him to commit this atrocity.... and in that knowledge to prevent future acts like this...instead of blabbing on and on and on about guns .......omg!!!!! am I the only one???????????????
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well that is an admirable sentiment but before the blood of the victims even started to clot the anti gun nut cases in our country started screaming for gun bans etc.

I don't know how you stop a guy like this from doing this again since he was smart enough to pick an area where the chance of someone being armed was about nil and he had a clean record prior to this attack

I don't believe in prior restraint, meaning if another guy with the same personality who has a clean record shows up we cannot throw him in jail because he might go on a rampage.
 
Mya said:
I am far more interested in knowing what went on in Holmes mind...what drove him to commit this atrocity.... and in that knowledge to prevent future acts like this...instead of blabbing on and on and on about guns .......omg!!!!! am I the only one???????????????
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To me this is the heart of the matter: What made this man commit such violence and how he became such a blight on humanity.
 
Mya said:
I am far more interested in knowing what went on in Holmes mind...what drove him to commit this atrocity.... and in that knowledge to prevent future acts like this...instead of blabbing on and on and on about guns .......omg!!!!! am I the only one???????????????
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Anytime a nutcase shoots people with guns in this country, that happens. People get riled up about the gun rights issue, and some people start crying that gun control would have prevented it, while the other side insists otherwise. Guns are a hot button issue here, and rightfully so.

As for the kid who did it, who knows what made him snap. It could be a variety of things, and we'll probably never really know for sure. That's one of the problems with some mental illness. A perfectly normal-seeming person just goes off the deep end, and you just hope he does it alone, rather than pulling others in on his misery.
 
Connery said:
To me this is the heart of the matter: What made this man commit such violence and how he became such a blight on humanity.
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YES YES and YES!!!!!:applaud


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It makes me sick to read all about guns guns guns all this senseless chatter .... and nothing about the mind problems .....grrrrrrrr
 
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lizzie said:
Anytime a nutcase shoots people with guns in this country, that happens. People get riled up about the gun rights issue, and some people start crying that gun control would have prevented it, while the other side insists otherwise. Guns are a hot button issue here, and rightfully so.

As for the kid who did it, who knows what made him snap. It could be a variety of things, and we'll probably never really know for sure. That's one of the problems with some mental illness. A perfectly normal-seeming person just goes off the deep end, and you just hope he does it alone, rather than pulling others in on his misery.
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Do you really want to know what may have cause this or are you more comfortable simply writing it off saying he was ill?
 
haymarket said:
Do you really want to know what may have cause this or are you more comfortable simply writing it off saying he was ill?
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Oh I'd love to be given the opportunity and power to find it out. but I suspect that we will never know.
 
TurtleDude said:
I find that overly broad and simplistic. Cops are not usually available in the two or three minutes it takes someone to mug, brutalize or assault you.

why don't you tell us what laws would solve the problems you have noted without duly burdening us who are both responsible and sane?
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As I said I am not interested in the gun control argument. What I found spurious and objectionable is your grouping of those who are pro gun control or anti gun control. Your position appears contrived, on what do you base the following statement on, "the problem is we on the right understand the limits of a free society and the fact that nuts will always be able to kill while some on the left want to stop honest people from being able to defend themselves".
 
Connery said:
As I said I am not interested in the gun control argument. What I found spurious and objectionable is your grouping of those who are pro gun control or anti gun control. Your position appears contrived, on what do you base the following statement on, "the problem is we on the right understand the limits of a free society and the fact that nuts will always be able to kill while some on the left want to stop honest people from being able to defend themselves".
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I don't think that makes sense. the gun control movement in the USA is dominated by left-wingers
 
TurtleDude said:
well that is an admirable sentiment but before the blood of the victims even started to clot the anti gun nut cases in our country started screaming for gun bans etc.

I don't know how you stop a guy like this from doing this again since he was smart enough to pick an area where the chance of someone being armed was about nil and he had a clean record prior to this attack

I don't believe in prior restraint, meaning if another guy with the same personality who has a clean record shows up we cannot throw him in jail because he might go on a rampage.
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Someone posts a concern about public safety and you start hacking at them for their concern while attempting to diminish them and dismiss them with labels. How about speaking to the issues instead of the person.
 
I think it's weird how happy he looks in his mug shot. I just saw on TMZ, he set up a profile for dating and finding women to have sex with and his headline was, "will you come see me in prison?" ... something like what.

WTF... does this guy think doing this is going to make his life better in some way.
 
haymarket said:
So when you are impotent to back up the claims you made during debate about an issue of American history you then resort to playground insults found on the elementary school playground.

Interesting.
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Nope. Now get lost.
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't think that makes sense. the gun control movement in the USA is dominated by left-wingers
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Again a futile attempt at labeling an issue away without more. BTW what is your definition of "left-winger"?
 
Connery said:
Someone posts a concern about public safety and you start hacking at them for their concern while attempting to diminish them and dismiss them with labels. How about speaking to the issues instead of the person.
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gun control has nothing to do with public safety
 
haymarket said:
Do you really want to know what may have cause this or are you more comfortable simply writing it off saying he was ill?
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I have a fairly thorough understanding of mental illness issues, and what it really boils down to is that individuals have different threshholds for stress tolerance. This kid apparently had a low threshhold. The cause was deep-seated anger and frustration.
 
lizzie said:
I have a fairly thorough understanding of mental illness issues, and what it really boils down to is that individuals have different threshholds for stress tolerance. This kid apparently had a low threshhold. The cause was deep-seated anger and frustration.
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You certainly could be correct. I would love to see the contents of his apartment. I hope they give us valuable information about what motivated him so we can learn from it.
 
haymarket said:
This will help you with the idea of evidence.... you know what that is right? It is what you are lacking in your position that you need in debate. This will help you learn:

The Use and Misuse of Evidence in Debate.
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you mean when lefties claim that the rich have x amount of income and then claim that that fact proves that the rich need to be taxed more?

or that the nut case in Colorado had X weapons and that proves that we need to ban said weapons because that would have prevented the killings?
 
Mya said:
I am far more interested in knowing what went on in Holmes mind...what drove him to commit this atrocity.... and in that knowledge to prevent future acts like this...instead of blabbing on and on and on about guns .......omg!!!!! am I the only one???????????????
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Nope, not the only one. I'd say most of us definitely want a better understanding of this mindset so we can possibly intervene before they commit these horrendous acts, by intervene I mean treatment, commitment to an institution of mental health, etc.
 
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