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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but the date he purchased the weapons doesn't prove anything.
    not true-if he bought them for the purpose of using them in a massacre.

    I like what one friend of a victim-an attractive 24 year old woman who survived a mass shooting in Toronto said--don't mention the shooter mention her name and those of the victims. Lets hope the shooter dies a most horrible death in prison. as I noted, I am not a big fan of government imposed death sentences but if about 40 prisoners want to gang rape that mope-so be it

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Not for everybody. Maybe almost everybody thought only of themselves, but you wait--you will be hearing about a few who tried to help others.
    Oh Jesus Christ, we're talking about instincts (aka the fight or flight response). Until you figure that out, keep your condescending "maybe almost everybody thought of themselves" nonsense out of my face. Is it really that simple for people? Do you people really think that situations like this are a matter of the selfish and the noble. Jesus Christ, use some common sense and do some research.

    And, by the way, I did hear about those who tried or did help others? Several of them did their best until their survival instincts kicked in and they ran away. I won't hold it against them and accuse them of "only thinking of themselves," since, you know, they were in a pretty tough situation that it's easy to judge when you're not in it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Or the 3rd option, which ensured the majority of those people got out of the theater: panic, take cover, don't shoot back, don't get shot, leave and survive.
    This guy's intention was to have as few survivors as possible. People didn't shoot back, tried to escape, and got shot.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That's true. But it's just possible that some have been in dire circumstances, have made choices, and are pretty sure how they would react.
    It's still pure speculation. You can't know how the neurons in your brain will fire, you can't know if you'll have a massive release of epinephrine, how your Thymus, Amygdala, or Hypothalamus will react.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Having served at Fort Hood I know for a fact soldiers do not have easy access to weapon.The only soldiers who would have access to weapons with ammo are MPs and those on armed guard duty or those doing training with live rounds at a training range.
    people who haven't served often think bases have open vending machines next to every light switch stocked with m-16s already clipped.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I'm just curious as to his motives...Seems like a pretty smart guy. Did well in school, was in grad school. I wonder what the trigger was, for him to all of a sudden start trying to plan this crap out? And why? Did his girlfriend leave him for another dude? Is he gay, and his boyfriend leave him for another dude? Not trying to joke about it, but it just seems silly for me to try to rationalize this...I mean, there is pretty much nothing that can happen to you that is so bad to have you plan this, right? Did the kid discover nihilism, or something?
    That's just it. Guy was not doing well and dropped out.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The former point is why I can't take much of this, "people should have shot him...I would have shot him...shooting him would have helped...blah, blah, etc.." seriously. It's just as ridiculous and completely speculation based as the "gun laws would have stopped this" nonsense is. Most people have never been shot at and certainly not in this type of scenario. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as likely or more that the "heroes" would have been shot dead on the spot by the man in the bullet proof vest and the gas mask than they would have stopped him or slowed him down.

    Both sides of gun issue on this just want to believe that they have the answer. They don't.
    If you're dead anyway might as well try to get others out, it's not being a hero, it's just that other options suck much worse.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    It's still pure speculation. You can't know how the neurons in your brain will fire, you can't know if you'll have a massive release of epinephrine, how your Thymus, Amygdala, or Hypothalamus will react.
    the more you train the more likely your training will kick in in an emergency. that's why people who ambush Green Berets or Army Rangers tend to take far higher casualties than those who ambush supply convoys or engineering battalions

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think that's the usual protocol too actually. Not sure, but iirc there is a way to dismiss charges for "temporary insanity", I hope this doesn't get dismissed.
    If the judge intervenes and declares him insane before trial, then insanity cannot be claimed by the defense once the perp is "cured". this perp will get the full treatment from our judicial system. I am sure of that.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    This guy's intention was to have as few survivors as possible. People didn't shoot back, tried to escape, and got shot.
    The majority of people didn't shoot back, tried to escape and escaped. Anybody saying that shooting him would have had a positive effect is basing their argument on pure speculation and wishful thinking that their position on guns would have been the answer the here. Moreover, if his intention was to have a few survivors as possible, then pointing a gun at him wouldn't change that intention and would likely just make you a bigger target.

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