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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The problem with that approach is that many who may take it don't know how to use weapons. It is more likely there would be more victims at their hands because of their shoot-before-thinking attitude than there would be of the killer being taken down.
    I'm not going to take the, "do nothing, because someone might get hurt", approach either.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That doesn't indicate how long he planned this. Purchasing guns isn't a criminal act, nor does it prove intent to committ a criminal act.
    He had more body armor than a swat guy and a house full of ammo and booby traps.. This took a lot of planning.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Sarcasm or not, it was still disgusting.
    I guess you don't like me now...oh, wait...
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    He had more body armor than a swat guy and a house full of ammo and booby traps.. This took a lot of planning.
    true-hopefully those in prison with him will plan equally pleasant things for him

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    It's nice to sit outside looking in and say "I'd be that hero. I'd have protected them" but, until you are in the situation, it's a simple hypothetical and your brain could react completely differently.
    That's true. But it's just possible that some have been in dire circumstances, have made choices, and are pretty sure how they would react.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    He had more body armor than a swat guy and a house full of ammo and booby traps.. This took a lot of planning.
    I don't disagree with that, but the date he purchased the weapons doesn't prove anything.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How do we know they weren't carrying concealed? I haven't seen anything credible where anyone said "Golly, I had a bead on the guy but I just didn't have a weapon." The dude was wearing body armor. That makes making the shot far more difficult.

    The idea that concealed carry would have saved lives in this situation is based on wishful thinking rather than evidence. Ft Hood was at place where access to firearms shouldn't be much of a problem, but there were similar numbers of casualties there. Even when shots were exchanged in that situation, by trained military, the problem wasn't solved right away.
    Having served at Fort Hood I know for a fact soldiers do not have easy access to weapon.The only soldiers who would have access to weapons with ammo are MPs and those on armed guard duty or those doing training with live rounds at a training range.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe that, in cases like this, if he is judged "insane", then he is usually given meds until he understands what he did, and is then put on trial.
    I think that's the usual protocol too actually. Not sure, but iirc there is a way to dismiss charges for "temporary insanity", I hope this doesn't get dismissed.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Surprise. Why do I even bother responding to your posts?
    It has everything to do with what you said, unless you're trying to say that those people got shot for a good reason.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    I'm just curious as to his motives...Seems like a pretty smart guy. Did well in school, was in grad school. I wonder what the trigger was, for him to all of a sudden start trying to plan this crap out? And why? Did his girlfriend leave him for another dude? Is he gay, and his boyfriend leave him for another dude? Not trying to joke about it, but it just seems silly for me to try to rationalize this...I mean, there is pretty much nothing that can happen to you that is so bad to have you plan this, right? Did the kid discover nihilism, or something? I mean, Dark Knight came out a long ass time ago...so, why not do this then? It just seems so odd, random, and arbitrary...and lately, I've stopped believing in random. We're ALL in a giant Rube Goldberg contraption. So, what ball dropping caused this, for this kid?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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