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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    that's not guaranteed.
    Never said it was. However, doing nothing guarantees that his aim and his intention won't be comprimised. I'll choose returning fire over cowering on the floor waiting for my turn to die. That's just me.





    Yet there was gunfire exchanged. And he hit the first person who returned fire. Twice. They didn't hit him.
    Hasan was hit...five times.

    Sergeant Mark Todd arrived and shouted commands at Hasan to surrender.[24] Todd said: "Then he turned and fired a couple of rounds at me. I didn't hear him say a word, he just turned and fired."[30] The two exchanged shots, and Hasan was felled by five shots from Todd,[3][31] who then kicked his pistol out of his hand and placed him in handcuffs as he fell unconscious.[32]



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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Just a thought here, guys, while we're debating what kind of physical force the audience could have used to defend themselves: Wasn't the real problem with the shooter between his ears? What kind of a sick mofo DOES stuff like this anyway?
    Yep. That really is the most important question which will not have a quick answer.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Doesn't hurt as much as an AR-15 round to the forehead.
    That doesn't hurt at all. ;-)
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Doesn't hurt as much as an AR-15 round to the forehead.
    If the bad guy gets hit a few times, he might not get that shot off.

    You can argue against action all you want, but history has proven that doing something beats the hell out of doing nothing.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Reading stories like this makes me questioin humanity sometimes.
    Stories like this tell a great truth about all of the stress we're under these days.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the bad guy gets hit a few times, he might not get that shot off.

    You can argue against action all you want, but history has proven that doing something beats the hell out of doing nothing.
    I don't think that history ever proves what MIGHT have happened if what actually happened had happened differently.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the bad guy gets hit a few times, he might not get that shot off.

    You can argue against action all you want, but history has proven that doing something beats the hell out of doing nothing.
    Reminds me of a discussion a while back about a college co- ed that was stabbed to death in a busy college cafeteria while everyone froze and watched in shock. Had even one or two people stepped up she would have lived.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I don't think that history ever proves what MIGHT have happened if what actually happened had happened differently.
    Yeah...ok...
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yep. That really is the most important question which will not have a quick answer.
    But the shooter already appears to fit the profile--loner, socially "off," and etc.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The other side of that coin is, the bad guy might rethink his intentions when he's taking pot shots from a .45.
    Holms is a Ph.D student and he knew that there was no security at the movie theatre at all and metal detectors should be installed to ramp up theatre security.
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