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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Serious bruising hurts. Of course how serious would depend on the type of armor, caliber of the weapon, and the type of load.

    Honestly, though, I think that most of the cowboys suggesting this resistance would think twice about taking potshots at a guy in head-to-toe body armor popping off rounds with an AR-15.
    The other side of that coin is, the bad guy might rethink his intentions when he's taking pot shots from a .45. That door swings both ways. Shot to the rib cage, even while wearing body armor can break ribs. Two, or three shattered ribs will put the toughest sum-bitch on his knees.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It wouldn't make the shot more difficult. It would mean that you probably wouldn't kill him, however you could still make him stop shooting.
    that's not guaranteed.



    Except for MP's and a few other exceptions, it's against regulations for a soldier to carry a loaded weapon, on post. The scenario at Fort Hood purdy much guaranteed that everyone was unarmed.
    Yet there was gunfire exchanged. And he hit the first person who returned fire. Twice. They didn't hit him.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Not from 10-15 feet. Not to slow him down. Maybe put him on the floor. His vision and awareness are compromised by the smoke and the mask. You could pop 4-5 rounds close range before he even knew where they came from.
    I agree. A lot of people think the hollywood version of getting hit, issuing a curse word, and continuing on is the norm with those vests, not true. At over 20 yards sure it hurts like hell but at close quarters even a small handgun is hundreds of pounds of force transferred through the body, it's hard to stay on one's feet.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My common sense tells me that most people with CC permits have never really been under fire before.



    With these types of killers, they don't really care. Again, I'll cite Ft Hood. He was able to take out one of the people firing back at him.
    One of the other people firing at him stopped him, too.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The other side of that coin is, the bad guy might rethink his intentions when he's taking pot shots from a .45. That door swings both ways. Shot to the rib cage, even while wearing body armor can break ribs. Two, or three shattered ribs will put the toughest sum-bitch on his knees.
    Doesn't hurt as much as an AR-15 round to the forehead.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My common sense tells me that most people with CC permits have never really been under fire before.
    I guess we could argue till Bossy comes home. But given a choice? Good Guys with guns against a nutcase like this versus Good Guys with popcorn -- I'll take the ones with guns.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Just a thought here, guys, while we're debating what kind of physical force the audience could have used to defend themselves: Wasn't the real problem with the shooter between his ears? What kind of a sick mofo DOES stuff like this anyway?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My common sense tells me that most people with CC permits have never really been under fire before.



    With these types of killers, they don't really care. Again, I'll cite Ft Hood. He was able to take out one of the people firing back at him.
    Point 1: I've never been under fire before, but if god forbid that should ever happen there are two options, panic and get shot or find sufficient cover, fire back, and try to improve my odds.
    Point two: Most people looking to do harm don't declare their intentions, there is no way to stop them ahead of time. All you can do is give your best effort to stop them when they attack.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    One patron said, he had his cellphone in hand as he went out the door... and he thought it odd because people tend to go out to the lobby to take calls.
    The cell phone may have been a dodge.
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