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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's a weird place to go on a killing spree... I wonder why he picked a cinema and Batman of all movies
    What new release would have had as many people?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're assuming that someone would be carrying a sufficiently powerful gun loaded with armor-piercing ammo capable of breaching this guy's full-body suit? What are the chances of that?
    A (or several) .45 or 9mm bullets impacting a person, even in body armor, would have hurt like hell and I guarantee, slowed him down at a minimum.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's a weird place to go on a killing spree... I wonder why he picked a cinema and Batman of all movies
    From I understand the shooter was doing a sick reenactment of a scene from the second movie, I've never seen any of the series but part of the news coverage stated that was the motive.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    A shot to the groin, hip or face or throat would work--I have a vest in my home-and none of those areas are protected by it


    you don't know much about this subject do you?
    No, I don't know much about it -- hence the question mark. But I do know that he was wearing a helmet and a throat protector.

    What would you say the chances are of an above-average marksman using a concealable weapon hitting the guy in the groin or face from significant distance in a dark theater filled with smoke ... or tear gas? ... while everyone around them is scrambling for cover and screaming bloody murder ... while taking fire from an AR-15?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's a weird place to go on a killing spree... I wonder why he picked a cinema and Batman of all movies
    He claimed he was the Joker after capture. I think it's the movie's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    A shot to the groin, hip or face or throat would work--I have a vest in my home-and none of those areas are protected by it


    you don't know much about this subject do you?
    Tell me turtle. Why do they teach to shoot for center mass?

    Adam's comment is an exaggeration of how difficult it'd be. Your implication exaggerates how simple it would be

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    A shot to the groin, hip or face or throat would work--I have a vest in my home-and none of those areas are protected by it


    you don't know much about this subject do you?
    he did have groin and throat armor also at least.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're assuming that someone would be carrying a sufficiently powerful gun loaded with armor-piercing ammo capable of breaching this guy's full-body suit? What are the chances of that?
    You can shoot someone who is wearing body armor with a .22 and it's going to hurt like hell.

    My wife carries five shot .41 magnum in her purse. Two, or three hits with that and this clown would have been slobbering on the floor begging someone to arrest him, before he got his stupid ass shot again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    A shot to the groin, hip or face or throat would work--I have a vest in my home-and none of those areas are protected by it

    you don't know much about this subject do you?
    Agreed. I suspect some of our experts here never even fired a gun. Flak-jackets etc are not designed to keep one uninjured in a close-range firefight. Nothing will do that effectively. Shoulders down. Waste down. Face. From less than 10'.

    As for those pretending to know, and to claim that the shooter "saw all", he had restricted vision like everyone else. There were plenty of folks in the theater who remained uninjured as the shooter went past. Yet for tehm, who know virtually nothing of close combat, to claim that it would not hve mattered, or would only have created more casualties, is stupid beyond belief.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    From I understand the shooter was doing a sick reenactment of a scene from the second movie, I've never seen any of the series but part of the news coverage stated that was the motive.
    I heard the same thing. Also heard (radio news) that he'd asked everybody to call him The Joker starting a week or so ago. If I understand it correctly, The Joker's "plan" was to get caught. Which is exactly what he let happen to himself. No resistance when the coppers showed up.

    He also had an audio system in his apartment set to start playing super loud music and banging noises at about the same time he was shooting up the theater. They postulate that he expected someone in the apartment building to call the police, and that the police would break down the door...setting off his elaborate booby-traps killing them. (Someone did call the cops, btw.)

    This guy was sane enough to come up with a very exacting plan...
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