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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I'm suggesting that firing on a man armed to the hilt with anti-handgun body armor will not stop him, and that firing on him in (1) a darkened theater that (2) has been filled with smoke and (3) tear gas will certainly jeporadize the lives of many more patrons than this man could ever have taken on his own.

    There were military men present in the theater. They weren't able to do a thing.
    Hey. You are not ex military apparently.

    As for 'being filled with smoke", it goes both ways. If the perp can see to shoot, then trust that you can see to shoot back.

    As for 'gas", while the mask helps him to breath in a plain smokey room, there is no confirmation that it was "gas". I have watched the videos, and no one is coming out of the theater as if gassed. All comments were "harder to breath", which would be caused by a regular smoke grenade. No one says eyes stinging. Were it gas, you'd have seen it just with the folks at the front of the theater. I have been gassed a dozen times. Had my nose run off my chin.

    His guns were legal purchase. Signal smokes are easily purchased. But CS type of grenades ... no f'ing way.

    Even so, someone near him, with a handgun, who escaped the initial shots, and likely beside him, or now behind him, can certainly do damage. There were many places to aim that would have disabled him and taken him down. Likely from less than 10' range.

    Your posts pretend to speak with knowledge on this subject. But I see no knowledge. I see uninformed speculation, to the point of ignorance.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    My dad doesn't hot-rod, but this is exactly why I ask him not to ride his Harley on the highway leading to our house. The speed limit is set at 70, but most people go 80 or more. If something happened that caused him to lose control there's no way in hell he'd survive it short of a miracle. I totally understand the thrill of biking, but it isn't worth death, IMO.
    Actually I love bikes. Harley's... and especially vintage Indians. Bikes are as safe as the rider, just as cars are/not. BTW, this was in a city and the speed limit was 30. He was doing approx double that. Whether it was intentional or due to poor shifting, he was doing a wheelie. It was a street bike, and when he came down he went into a high speed wobble that ejected him off the bike. I tend to think it was unintentional, but I heard him before I saw him, and when I did see him he was already on the back tire, not very high up. I think he lifted not meaning to, then backed off the throttle... He came down and went into a wicked wobble and off the bike he went. All of that is such a haze to me. watching him skim across the pavement and smack into my car, I am stopped waiting for him to get up for a couple seconds until I realized he is probably hurt bad and get out to check on him. That's when it all comes clear to see my tire sitting on his chest and throat.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This isn't about a pedophile. This is about a guy who went into a theater and shot up a bunch of people.
    Oh okay, so a pedophile is not that bad.

    Who gives a **** what his motives are.Knowing his motives will not prevent any future shootings.Nor will knowing his motives bring any of his victims back to life. Knowing his motives won't even make his victims feel better. The police ****ed up by not putting as bullet in his head and their **** up will cost tax payers millions of dollars and cause more grief for the victims and their families.
    This is one of the most uncivilized comments I have read in weeks. Not, one of the most uncivilized comments I've read on DP in weeks. One of the most uncivilized I've read ANYWHERE.

    Thank GOD the police didn't listen to this patently absurd device. More than anything, Aurora deserves answers. And with the shooter alive, we may yet get those answers.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Do you honestly believe that life is like a John Woo movie, where anyone with fingers enough to fire a Glock carries one in the waistbands of their pants?
    If the gun is small enough, it's carried in a pocket. Haven't you seen those little .22's?

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well there has been death threats against the director, and threats because of the whole "Bane/Bain" issue..
    Seriously? I never heard that.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    It's still a stigma to carry a gun, I know. Yes, it's concealed. No one sees it, but friends and family still have something to say about carrying.
    Furthermore, the theater did not allow concealed weapons on their premises. That explains why no one shot back. CCW holders are law abiding citizens and honor posted signs ...because it's the law. They can lose their permit and go to jail if they do otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hey. You are not ex military apparently.

    As for 'being filled with smoke", it goes both ways. If the perp can see to shoot, then trust that you can see to shoot back.

    As for 'gas", while the mask helps him to breath in a plain smokey room, there is no confirmation that it was "gas". I have watched the videos, and no one is coming out of the theater as if gassed. All comments werre "hard ot breath". No one says eyes stinging. Were it gas, you'd have seen it just with teh folks at teh front of the theater. I have been gassed a dozen times. Had my nose run off my chin.

    Even so, someone near him, with a handgun, who escaped the initial shots, and likely beside him, or now behind him, can certainly do damage. There were many places to aim that would have disabled him and taken him down.

    YOu posts pretend to speak with knowledge on this subject. But I see no knowledge. I see uninformed speculation, to the point of ignorance.
    The "perp" isn't worrying about hitting bystanders...on the contrary that's his GOAL. Those shooting at the perp are doing so to minimize casualties and need to hit the specific person.

    So the pope doesn't need clear line of sight, he doesn't care who he hits, he's just looking to hit someone. Those shooting at him are wanting to hit someone specific, and sauce vision and site is more important

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hey. You are not ex military apparently.

    As for 'being filled with smoke", it goes both ways. If the perp can see to shoot, then trust that you can see to shoot back.
    The perp knows where you're at. While you were lost in the film, enjoying the sight of Batman engaging in fisticuffs with the bad guys, the perpetrator was eyeing the entrances and the exits. He was taking stock of how many people were sitting in each row. He was taking a head count. He was watching you.

    You're not going to do a Goddamn thing to him.

    As for 'gas", while the mask helps him to breath in a plain smokey room, there is no confirmation that it was "gas". I have watched the videos, and no one is coming out of the theater as if gassed. All comments werre "hard ot breath". No one says eyes stinging. Were it gas, you'd have seen it just with teh folks at teh front of the theater. I have been gassed a dozen times. Had my nose run off my chin.
    That's funny, since the patrons who were interviewed on CNN reported that they dropped to the ground to avoid the gunfire only to get a face full of tear gas. The killer had a one-two plan of attack. He was smart.

    Even so, someone near him, with a handgun, who escaped the initial shots, and likely beside him, or now behind him, can certainly do damage. There were many places to aim that would have disabled him and taken him down.
    In other words, you want this to be a scene out of Walker, Texas Ranger. Real life doesn't work that way.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well there has been death threats against the director, and threats because of the whole "Bane/Bain" issue..
    Oh, lawd! Here we go!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So the pope doesn't need clear line of sight, he doesn't care who he hits, he's just looking to hit someone. Those shooting at him are wanting to hit someone specific, and sauce vision and site is more important
    I had no idea the Pope was so bloodthirsty.
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