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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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    Get down off your hobby horse ... .ROFLMAO ......... we mock ABC, and you are all but-hurt.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It's very unlikely that someone carrying concealed would have stopped him from taking many more lives than he already took. According to all reports, Holmes was wearing body armor - I've read variously Kevlar and flak. I favor concealed carry, but this is a pretty bad case to argue that it would have mattered one way or the other.

    yeah that is why I teach my students to shoot two to the body and put two more in the hip-groin area. Far easier to hit than the head and the knock down is almost as quick.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    That's pretty badass of that guy, but of course, the situation at hand is an completely different situation. The guys in that video probably weren't there to kill people. They weren't decked out in bullet proof vests, neck guards and whatever else this dude had on. They didn't throw a smoke or tear gas bomb into their target area and they didn't just start shooting people at random.

    You're comparing apples to oranges. I highly doubt that weapons would have done much good in this situation.
    That guy is extremely lucky he didn't shoot a patron or that patrons werent shot in crossfire. It wasn't bad ass. It was dumb and he got very lucky.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    The surreal nature of any kind of event.... I was involved in a fatal accident with a motorcyclist. There wasn't anything I could do, the guy thought he was the next Evel Knievel. He loses it at high speed and his body skims across the pavement, his head stiking my front right bumper. Yeah, I locked up the brakes, but not enough time for me to stop and my front right tire ends up on his chest and throat. I sat there for a few seconds waiting for the guy to get up and shake it off. Just didn't fully realize what was actually happening. It was over for the guy anyway from the broken C-spine. Had he somehow survived that massive Fx, caving in his chest and throat was a blessing. My 1st unhazy memory of it is getting out of the car to see if he was ok and seeing where my tire was and backing up and feeling it roll off him. Thankfully there were enough witnesses so that I was found to be completely not at fault.
    My dad doesn't hot-rod, but this is exactly why I ask him not to ride his Harley on the highway leading to our house. The speed limit is set at 70, but most people go 80 or more. If something happened that caused him to lose control there's no way in hell he'd survive it short of a miracle. I totally understand the thrill of biking, but it isn't worth death, IMO.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    There is too much consistency to this type of terrorism for each one to be a "fluke" and until we stop denying it is an epidemic we will never begin to comprehend the causes and thus solutions. The only marked difference here is it wasn't a suicide mission. He wanted to survive and for reasons we may never know.
    An epidemic? Please.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I didn't "ignore what you said". I addressed what you said exactly. And what you said was that the killer, Holmes, was a registered Democrat, and that you felt victimized by the big, bad librul media for not mentioning that 'fact'. I 'addressed' your claim by debunking it: Homes was not a Democrat.

    You want, on the one hand, to pretend as if the mainstream media is persecuting you; the right-wing in this country has developed a worrisome love affair with self-victimization. On the other, you want to engage in the same sort of behavior you see in the 'mainstream media'. It won't do.

    Let's go through this again, shall we?

    You wrote:




    But this is speculation. And it is, furthermore, incorrect.

    From Breitbart.com:



    In other words, you were engaging in hypocrisy. And I don't like hypocrisy.

    the active shooter's political affiliation is not relevant. He's a whacked out loser that probably should be being impaled on a stake right now. The dems, the GOP, the tea party, the OWS people-NONE OF THEM are responsible for this. He didn't target conservatives, liberals, CEO's Labor union leaders, --he targeted an environment that was obviously full of young people-generally the people seeing a batman film into the early hours of the morning are people who don't have to work the next day-ie Youths on summer break

    and yeah, I cannot think of a punishment too harsh for scum like this guy

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    That is a pretty good theory, it was some what well planned. from what I am able to see, the killer was never suppose to get away, it's like he went and killed all those innocent people and gave himself up to the cops. It's sad that this happened.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    I think the argument will be that this "loner" cracked in grad school (no details yet on why he dropped out of grad school after his first doctoral semester).

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell View Post
    That is a pretty good theory, it was some what well planned. from what I am able to see, the killer was never suppose to get away, it's like he went and killed all those innocent people and gave himself up to the cops. It's sad that this happened.
    active shooters are almost always suicidal. That is why the threat of punishment does not deter them. The only way to stop an active killer is to shoot them or they run out of ammo. The old solution to a situation like this was for the LEOs to wait until they had an overwhelming advantage and then go after the active shooter. That is what was used in columbine and it has been proven incorrect. The current solution is the first LEO on the scene to go after the active shooter. They almost always will kill themselves or surrender when confronted with lethal force. There have been at least a few cases where active shooters commit suicide when fired upon or slightly wounded.

    I would note that a movie theater showing a midnight film catering to teens is pretty much guaranteed to be a gun free zone and initial reports are that the area where this theater is is designated a GUN FREE ZONE

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
    its MUCH easier to carry a concealed handgun in Colorado, than in NYC.

    and yet, no one shot back at the killer.
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    what part of the second "C" in CCW, don't you understand?
    It's still a stigma to carry a gun, I know. Yes, it's concealed. No one sees it, but friends and family still have something to say about carrying.
    Furthermore, the theater did not allow concealed weapons on their premises. That explains why no one shot back. CCW holders are law abiding citizens and honor posted signs ...because it's the law. They can lose their permit and go to jail if they do otherwise.
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