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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    It's very unlikely that someone carrying concealed would have stopped him from taking many more lives than he already took. According to all reports, Holmes was wearing body armor - I've read variously Kevlar and flak. I favor concealed carry, but this is a pretty bad case to argue that it would have mattered one way or the other.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Sad world we live in that you can't even watch a movie in peace.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you kidding me? This guy was in full battle gear, heavily armed with TWO long guns, an AR-15 and a shotgun. True it is easier to LEGALLY carry concealed in CO than in NYC, but it is still far too rare for the odds to be good of finding even ONE concealed handgun in a late night movie theater, not only that, but this killer was "well suited" for an armed defense as well. He picked a location with poor lighting, immovable furniture, lots of young people, wore dark clothing/body armor and used smoke/gas bombs to help prevent others from acquiring a good shot at him. In short, he was well prepared for his mass murder mission and planned it well.
    And not only was it dark, but some of the audience members were primed to think it was a hoax. I've read--can't find link at the moment--that one the trailers before the movie showed a gunman shooting up a theater. And from the AP:

    Sylvana Guillen, 20, said when a man appeared at the front of the theater clad in dark clothing looking like a SWAT team member as Catwoman
    made an appearance in the movie, the audience "thought it was a joke, a
    hoax."

    Then they heard gunshots and smelled smoke from a canister he was carrying, and Guillen knew it was real.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I know... So many survivors were unable to even comprehend what was going on until they got out of the theater.

    I have been to hundreds of HS foorball games.. and I saw the bleachers collapse across the field.. It was like slow motion and my brain couldn't register it for several seconds..

    Imagine a darkened theater.
    The surreal nature of any kind of event.... I was involved in a fatal accident with a motorcyclist. There wasn't anything I could do, the guy thought he was the next Evel Knievel. He loses it at high speed and his body skims across the pavement, his head stiking my front right bumper. Yeah, I locked up the brakes, but not enough time for me to stop and my front right tire ends up on his chest and throat. I sat there for a few seconds waiting for the guy to get up and shake it off. Just didn't fully realize what was actually happening. It was over for the guy anyway from the broken C-spine. Had he somehow survived that massive Fx, caving in his chest and throat was a blessing. My 1st unhazy memory of it is getting out of the car to see if he was ok and seeing where my tire was and backing up and feeling it roll off him. Thankfully there were enough witnesses so that I was found to be completely not at fault.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I didn't "ignore what you said". I addressed what you said exactly. And what you said was that the killer, Holmes, was a registered Democrat, and that you felt victimized by the big, bad librul media for not mentioning that 'fact'. I 'addressed' your claim by debunking it: Homes was not a Democrat.

    You want, on the one hand, to pretend as if the mainstream media is persecuting you; the right-wing in this country has developed a worrisome love affair with self-victimization. On the other, you want to engage in the same sort of behavior you see in the 'mainstream media'. It won't do.

    Let's go through this again, shall we?

    You wrote:

    But this is speculation. And it is, furthermore, incorrect.

    From Breitbart.com:

    In other words, you were engaging in hypocrisy. And I don't like hypocrisy.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its MUCH easier to carry a concealed handgun in Colorado, than in NYC.

    and yet, no one shot back at the killer.
    because panty waisted bitches still whine when they see a gun in public. After years of people pushing the idea that guns are a bad thing and only criminals carry them it's a stigma in society to carry a gun.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    That's logical thinking.... Although I have no qualms on gun ownership. I am a 2nd ammendment fan. More gun carriers doesn't repel a person from doing what they do, but it does give them a lot less time to kill so many people.
    Exactly.

    A better example is that Virginia Tech shooting.

    This guy had only handgun(s).

    There is no chance he is killing the large number he did when at least several students/the teacher in the class would also be packing.


    Mass killing has become the new way for the nutjobs to go out in a blaze of glory.

    And the trend seems to be getting more 'popular' - not less.


    And harsher sentences will do squat when the perp is a mad man. IF he is going to kill himself after the shootings - what does he care if there is a death sentence.

    Someone has to do something to allow/force the public to be better armed (since there is little point in trying to limit gun ownership with SO MANY out there right now)...or this will keep happening over and over and over.

    I guess it is going to have to take some ultimate horror - like a really well planned guy goes into a huge day care and kills hundreds of children over several hours or something before the public says 'enough'.

    Because they (the public) don't seem to be saying that now - at least, not enough of them.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    because panty waisted bitches still whine when they see a gun in public.
    I wonder why....
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    because panty waisted bitches still whine when they see a gun in public. After years of people pushing the idea that guns are a bad thing and only criminals carry them it's a stigma in society to carry a gun.
    what part of the second "C" in CCW, don't you understand?

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Sad world we live in that you can't even watch a movie in peace.
    There is too much consistency to this type of terrorism for each one to be a "fluke" and until we stop denying it is an epidemic we will never begin to comprehend the causes and thus solutions. The only marked difference here is it wasn't a suicide mission. He wanted to survive and for reasons we may never know.
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