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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Is this directed at me?
    Yeah, you seem to think a limit is appropriate. Tell me what happens if you crank a full Beta C mag through a M4 as fast as it will shoot?

    the only useful purpose of such magazines are IPSC Rifle competitors where a .5 second difference can mean several places or someone issued something like that old STONER LMG that the SEALS USED in the Nam that took M16 mags or other STANAG LMGs designed for sustained auto fire that use STANAG magazines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    10 rounds is fine..for a handgun.

    rifles should be 20 rounds.
    I don't personally need a 100 round magazine, on the other-hand, that doesn't seem justification to me to ban them. What % of people are killed in America by guns with 30 round magazines or larger?

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    I don't personally need a 100 round magazine, on the other-hand, that doesn't seem justification to me to ban them. What % of people are killed in America by guns with 30 round magazines or larger?
    probably less than 2% from what I recall. I remember when the original "assault weapon ban" was being discussed and the Chief of Police of Trenton NJ was quoted in the WSJ noting that his police officers were more likely to be mauled by an escaped circus tiger than shot by a criminal using an "Assault weapon" with a high capacity magazine.

    small handguns are still the most popular criminal weapon due to concealibility and their ability to be quickly ditched when the Po Po comes around

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yeah, you seem to think a limit is appropriate. Tell me what happens if you crank a full Beta C mag through a M4 as fast as it will shoot?
    Stop pretending you're some kind of gun expert.

    You don't even know what an assault rifle is.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Romulus View Post
    You are wrong. According to wiki:



    If you compare the U.S. to Europe and Anglo countries, not only is are overall violent crime rate lower...it is the lowest!

    MEASURES OF GUN OWNERSHIP
    LEVELS FOR MACRO-LEVEL
    CRIME AND VIOLENCE RESEARCH
    Maybe you should take it up with TurtleDude since I was responding to his comment....
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ....btw England had even less crime before they started banning guns
    NTL, I believe we were talking about gun homicides in particular and the Wiki article that you posted says...

    "...Some types of reported property crime in the U.S. survey as lower than in Germany or Canada, yet the homicide rate in the United States is substantially higher.
    Property crime does happen everywhere and most people know that you don't need a gun to steal someones property. So your point is moot.

    Yes, we have more homicides, and we can discuss who it is exactly in our society that is killing each other, but I don't want to be called a racist for pointing out statistical fact. Let's just say we have an urban youth gang problem in large cities.
    Yes, we all know who is commiting the most gun homicides which is why many large metropolitan cities want to ban guns, not add more. Since Mayor Bloomberg started implementing his search and seizure policy (which also violates the constitution), gun homicide and crime in NYC went down so significantly that it lowered the entire nationial homicide and crime rate. Removing guns did that, not adding them.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Why would anyone need to be able to shoot more than ten rounds or so without reloading?

    What would they be shooting to require that many shots, outside of a combat situation that is?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Stop pretending you're some kind of gun expert.

    You don't even know what an assault rifle is.
    stop lying

    you were the one caught confusing assault weapon with assault rifle and then you post this crap

    I have already defined the term without having to google it-something you should have done BEFORE you spewed your ignorant idiocy about assault weapons thinking they were the same as assault rifles

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Why would anyone need to be able to shoot more than ten rounds or so without reloading?

    What would they be shooting to require that many shots, outside of a combat situation that is?
    well then why do police carry 17 round magazines? their right to shoot in self defense is NO DIFFERENT THAN YOURS

    and many competitions--20 round magazines are an advantage

    the real question is why should an artificial limit that has no basis in the evidentiary facts be imposed on people?

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well then why do police carry 17 round magazines? their right to shoot in self defense is NO DIFFERENT THAN YOURS....
    ordinary citizens don't face the dangers and have the responsibilities that cops do.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    LOL So the old wild west in your opinion is 1987?
    Nope. I was refrencing your comparison of gun crimes in the US vs GB. Even in GB where "assault" weapons are illegal massacres still occur.

    What the wild west was known for was mostly myth perpetuated by Buffalo Bill and his wild west shows and a few novels. Most towns especially in towns where cowboys would come after a cattle drive had gun ordinances like TD said. So my point was those ordinances had a purpose and that was to prevent gun violence and no one back then used the second amendment as an excuse to keep their guns when they were in town because everyone knew that people were a lot safer when guns weren't present.
    So you're cool with the open carry of firearms, just as long as it's not in "towns"?

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