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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The former point is why I can't take much of this, "people should have shot him...I would have shot him...shooting him would have helped...blah, blah, etc.." seriously. It's just as ridiculous and completely speculation based as the "gun laws would have stopped this" nonsense is. Most people have never been shot at and certainly not in this type of scenario. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as likely or more that the "heroes" would have been shot dead on the spot by the man in the bullet proof vest and the gas mask than they would have stopped him or slowed him down.

    Both sides of gun issue on this just want to believe that they have the answer. They don't.
    Pretty much my stance in a nutshell. It's always easy to apply an argument retroactively to a tragedy in order to pretend that it would definitely have prevented it.

    Those retroactive arguments tend to do a great job of "convincing" people who are already convinced.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    By that measure, there is no war on terror, either.
    There is a war on terror but only because we have been causing that terror.....which is at least one reason why we have so many social terrorist attacks.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    I carry a pistol everyday and everywhere. Add to this tragedy that not a single shot was fired at the murderer. This is not a gun control issue. This pscho planned this massacre for MONTHS in advance. The bombs he planted in his apartment were not guns. Murderers never stop for lack of a means to kill, they simply kill by any means possible.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The former point is why I can't take much of this, "people should have shot him...I would have shot him...shooting him would have helped...blah, blah, etc.." seriously. It's just as ridiculous and completely speculation based as the "gun laws would have stopped this" nonsense is. Most people have never been shot at and certainly not in this type of scenario. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as likely or more that the "heroes" would have been shot dead on the spot by the man in the bullet proof vest and the gas mask than they would have stopped him or slowed him down.

    Both sides of gun issue on this just want to believe that they have the answer. They don't.

    I have an answer. More funding and better training of ATF agents + better coordination with local law enforcement.

    Wouldn't the gun lobby agree that anyone breaking a gun law should be arrested?


    Then we need to have undercover ATF agents at every gun show. Also, gun and ammo sales over the internet need to be more closely monitored.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    I carry a pistol everyday and everywhere. Add to this tragedy that not a single shot was fired at the murderer. This is not a gun control issue. This pscho planned this massacre for MONTHS in advance. The bombs he planted in his apartment were not guns. Murderers never stop for lack of a means to kill, they simply kill by any means possible.
    The theater was in a gun free zone.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I have an answer. More funding and better training of ATF agents + better coordination with local law enforcement.

    Wouldn't the gun lobby agree that anyone breaking a gun law should be arrested?


    Then we need to have undercover ATF agents at every gun show. Also, gun and ammo sales over the internet need to be more closely monitored.
    Bull****. I can get a gun within a few hours illegally if I wanted to without setting foot in a gun show. If people want to use a gun for murder, as was the case here, they'll find a way to get the gun somehow. It's just like drugs. People find em, and no matter how many laws are thrown into the mix, they keep finding them.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Bingo! That is why the most powerful military on the planet, in over a decade, with "allied support" can not advance beyond a stalemate, in Afghanistan, against an enemy that has no navy, no air force and a "rag tag", at best army. While we fight these "terrorists" we supply/support their corrupt governements (Karsai and the Taliban) and over 70% of the entire nation's GDP with our tax money. It is totally insane, yet that is our foreign policy; piddle along playing world policeman and buying "friends" in low places. After spending MANY BILLIONS and wasting many U.S. lives, we are no further along in fighting terror or drugs but continue to play at it, since many profit handsomely along the way. USA, USA, USA...
    "many profit handsomely along the way" is the real reason the so called "wars" have gone on as long as they have, that and the fact that it gives government an excuse to grab more power.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The former point is why I can't take much of this, "people should have shot him...I would have shot him...shooting him would have helped...blah, blah, etc.." seriously. It's just as ridiculous and completely speculation based as the "gun laws would have stopped this" nonsense is. Most people have never been shot at and certainly not in this type of scenario. As far as I'm concerned, it's just as likely or more that the "heroes" would have been shot dead on the spot by the man in the bullet proof vest and the gas mask than they would have stopped him or slowed him down.

    Both sides of gun issue on this just want to believe that they have the answer. They don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    I would rather die protecting people, than run like a coward. I would have preferred to be shot, than the 6yr old.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Bull****. I can get a gun within a few hours illegally if I wanted to without setting foot in a gun show. If people want to use a gun for murder, as was the case here, they'll find a way to get the gun somehow. It's just like drugs. People find em, and no matter how many laws are thrown into the mix, they keep finding them.
    Could you really? I wouldn't have the first clue where or how to obtain a gun illegally.
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