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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Holmes, by my definition, is insane. There are no sane people who give up their entire lives at the age of 24 in order to kill a lot of innocent people. He's also stupid by my definition, but that's not the point.

    Secondly, my oldest brother has about a hundred pairs of shoes. I find it appalling and have many times used the words "stockpile" and "cache" in reference to them. Your comments are betraying your bias, which is obviously that you hate tree huggers, hippies, liberals, those who drop out, turn on, tune in, go green, eat flax seed and oppose guns. But here's the thing: we all agree that the government should prohibit some weapons. We might not agree on which ones, but we all agree that certain things (like nuclear weapons) we shouldn't be allowed to have no matter how many background checks we pass. This is the argument. It's so dishonest to claim that this debate is one side trying to take away your guns and the other side is the constitutional group of patriots trying to defend everybody's freedom. Of course we're not going to agree on anything when you go into it with that mindset.

    Again, with the Holder thing: two weeks ago conservatives acknowledge that semi-automatic rifles are dangerous and shouldn't fall into the wrong hands. Now, suddenly, gun control is back in the news with this issue and everybody is quick to say "there's nothing wrong with these weapons and prohibiting them will only make things worse." Well, I think, and many others think, that we should be more careful, have a more thorough process, and try to prevent these things from happening.

    I'm going to get frozen yogurt now. I'm sorry I won't be able to argue back.
    No offense to your brother or you, but guys who stockpile shoes like that have always had....peculiarities.......

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Video has emerged of Colorado movie theater massacre suspect James Holmes addressing his peers at a science camp in San Diego.

    It shows Holmes, then 18, at a Miramar College science camp discussing “temporal illusions,” which he explains as “an illusion that allows you to change the past,” and “subjective experience, which is what takes place inside the mind as opposed to the external world.”



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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I don't think I'm the only American that wants stricter gu8n control , run the numbers try using all political parties.

    Anyone with a brain might take into consideration, if someone is planning to kill someone with a gun making it difficult to aquire a gun would be a priority.
    You are absolutely correct!!! If Holmes had gone online and saw the stricter gun control laws he would have just given up, concentrated on school, graduated, get married, and have a family.

    If you would like, I will pay for your airfare to Aurora so you can help them calm down by pointing out this only happened because of lax gun laws. I will also pay for your medical care from their reactions.

    Your post is like it is coming from a battery operated doll living in a snow globe that faces a poster of The Beach.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Video has emerged of Colorado movie theater massacre suspect James Holmes addressing his peers at a science camp in San Diego.

    It shows Holmes, then 18, at a Miramar College science camp discussing “temporal illusions,” which he explains as “an illusion that allows you to change the past,” and “subjective experience, which is what takes place inside the mind as opposed to the external world.”



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    From what you posted there is nothing unusual about what he said.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the 30 round magazine is standard issue for police and military. that alone makes it useful and proper for civilians to have it

    and competition shooters use Beta C mags.

    in most cases a C mag is too bulky for the sort of stuff criminals want to do
    Sorry, I just don't see the usefulnes of a 30 rounder for the public: we've just seen profound and compelling evidence of why. Competition shooting can be done equally well with 10 round mags. I mean, check this out: The Beta Company | BETA MAG C-MAG | 100 Round Maga Reeeaaallly. A picture's worth a thousand words. Is that kind of thing appropriate for public consumtion? Is it responsible? What is it saying? it only advances credibilty to not just my argument, but why the entire gun advocacy movement is suspect right from the beginning. Like yourself, I'm not an advocate of messing with the II Amendment, but, ya'know, enough is enough already. The kind of attitude that is reflect; just in that one website, is the kind of thing that does more harm to this country than any good it could ever do: it just makes us look silly and stupid. Sorry but we''ll have to disagree on such equipment for public consumption.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    From what you posted there is nothing unusual about what he said.

    I posted this because this is a first exclusive video we have of the suspect, not because of the contents of what he said,

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Thank you, I've been waiting for someone to bring that up.

    Seems, like everytime I mention a tighter gun control somebody automaticly brands me as anti gun, or thinks I want to do away with all guns in America .

    This is simply not true I can not speak for others who want stricter gun control but for me I say put the guns in the hands of responsible honest people and take them away from nut jobs by making it harder for them to get.
    In my mind, it's all about mature and responsible measures. Giving bottle rockest to children only gets people's roofs caught on fire.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't agree with that, but the rest of the post is good. I think the ar15 is a great all-around rifle with countless possible accessories/modifications, but it would be a very poor choice for home defense.
    No problem. You are thinking maneuverability and I can't disagree with that. I'm more comfortable with the thought of a pistol at close quarters, but I wouldn't have a problem with an M-4 for home defense.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Common sense is a good phrase too bad it isn't used as often in America today.

    When every year or so some nut comes out with guns or a gun and kills innocent people .
    Some nut also murders people with knives every year. Should purchasing a knife require back ground checks,permits ,registrations, waiting periods and ect?


    One does not have to have a high IQ. to figure out there's something about selling guns to weirdos that isn't right.
    One does not have to have a I to understand that weird does not equal dangerous.


    So is the background checks working?
    If you got a clean record then a back ground check isn't going to do squat.Besides that criminals do not submit to back ground checks.




    So is it time for the NRA to stop collecting money, stop making speeches and get off their lazy ass and do something?
    Yes I would say it is.
    The only things the NRA,GOA and other 2nd amendment advocates should do is encourage firearm ownership and to make sure the rats in office do not infringe on our 2nd amendment rights.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Sorry, I just don't see the usefulnes of a 30 rounder for the public: we've just seen profound and compelling evidence of why. Competition shooting can be done equally well with 10 round mags. I mean, check this out: The Beta Company | BETA MAG C-MAG | 100 Round Maga Reeeaaallly. A picture's worth a thousand words. Is that kind of thing appropriate for public consumtion? Is it responsible? What is it saying? it only advances credibilty to not just my argument, but why the entire gun advocacy movement is suspect right from the beginning. Like yourself, I'm not an advocate of messing with the II Amendment, but, ya'know, enough is enough already. The kind of attitude that is reflect; just in that one website, is the kind of thing that does more harm to this country than any good it could ever do: it just makes us look silly and stupid. Sorry but we''ll have to disagree on such equipment for public consumption.
    You have presented no actual argument against the conflicted merchandise. Emotions run high but not enough to compensate baseless positions. Your personal inability to see why consumers may want a 100R mag does not translate into actual compelling evidence against their sale. If you can produce a solid argument that would be great to read.

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