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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    So you know gun control inside and out huh?
    So tell me great one how does the nut jobs keep getting guns legal?

    So protestors could carry guns then?

    Emergency exits don't kill people, people with guns do.
    you are the one who wants changes yet you cannot say what you want

    I think anyone with a brain understands that someone willing to commit capital murder and plots for months about killing people is not going to be deterred by some law that restricts or bans a gun

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Americans have bought millions of guns -often in reaction to clinton and Obama. yet the crime rate has gone down despite the fact that most states now allow CCW permits. Sarah Brady and other scum claimed that the CCW licenses would lead to blood in the streets-a silly prediction that now has become a bald faced lie. She and other scum claimed that the sunset of the clinton gun ban would cause tons of deaths-again not true.

    so the laws seem to be working. Less accidental shootings and intentional killings even with 20 million or more guns in private hands

    I suspect you really don't have a proposed solution-you just FEEL that SOMETHING has to be done
    So the innocent dead in Colorado is just, then there's Virginia tech a mis, then there's Arizona , The little girl in Flint shot by a kid with a gun all after the sunset of Clinton's gun ban.
    Yeah lets just forget about them huh.
    Well these guys wasn't using a knife sooo gun control is in question.

    So what do we do in the meantime wait for another NRA speech?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    So the innocent dead in Colorado is just, then there's Virginia tech a mis, then there's Arizona , The little girl in Flint shot by a kid with a gun all after the sunset of Clinton's gun ban.
    Yeah lets just forget about them huh.
    Well these guys wasn't using a knife sooo gun control is in question.

    So what do we do in the meantime wait for another NRA speech?
    and every year thousands upon thousands of people deter or stop crimes because they are armed

    gun laws you probably want will make those beneficial uses of guns LESS COMMON while doing NOTHING to stop intentional criminal misconduct

    until you come up with some proposed solutions I am going to see your posts as a waste of time on this issue

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are the one who wants changes yet you cannot say what you want

    I think anyone with a brain understands that someone willing to commit capital murder and plots for months about killing people is not going to be deterred by some law that restricts or bans a gun
    I don't think I'm the only American that wants stricter gu8n control , run the numbers try using all political parties.

    Anyone with a brain might take into consideration, if someone is planning to kill someone with a gun making it difficult to aquire a gun would be a priority.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I don't think I'm the only American that wants stricter gu8n control , run the numbers try using all political parties.

    Anyone with a brain might take into consideration, if someone is planning to kill someone with a gun making it difficult to aquire a gun would be a priority.
    I keep asking for your proposed solution to make it tougher and you won't answer

    and only an idiot would think that someone who went to all the planning to murder people as this nut did is going to be deterred.

    I guess you haven't figured out that if the thought of being executed doesn't deter someone, they are pretty persistent at doing what they plan to do

    the people who are going to be deterred by gun laws before they act aren't people who plan on murdering others


    common sense-its a rare commodity among the handwringing hysterics

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and every year thousands upon thousands of people deter or stop crimes because they are armed

    gun laws you probably want will make those beneficial uses of guns LESS COMMON while doing NOTHING to stop intentional criminal misconduct

    until you come up with some proposed solutions I am going to see your posts as a waste of time on this issue
    How many guns were used in the movie in Denver to deter the shooter.

    How about this for a solution either make gun control stricter or easier.
    Before you look at that easier mark my try looking at some of the threatning blogs of the unemployed.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    How many guns were used in the movie in Denver to deter the shooter.

    How about this for a solution either make gun control stricter or easier.
    Before you look at that easier mark my try looking at some of the threatning blogs of the unemployed.
    You could not rightfully carry a gun in the movie theater.

    That is the ultimate restriction, is it not? And what was the result?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I keep asking for your proposed solution to make it tougher and you won't answer

    and only an idiot would think that someone who went to all the planning to murder people as this nut did is going to be deterred.

    I guess you haven't figured out that if the thought of being executed doesn't deter someone, they are pretty persistent at doing what they plan to do

    the people who are going to be deterred by gun laws before they act aren't people who plan on murdering others


    common sense-its a rare commodity among the handwringing hysterics
    Common sense is a good phrase too bad it isn't used as often in America today.

    When every year or so some nut comes out with guns or a gun and kills innocent people .
    One does not have to have a high IQ. to figure out there's something about selling guns to weirdos that isn't right.
    So is the background checks working?
    If they were this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

    So is it time for the NRA to stop collecting money, stop making speeches and get off their lazy ass and do something?
    Yes I would say it is.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't bother reading any further when you spew crap like the only purpose for owning a rifle like that is to kill other people

    I have at least 6000 rounds of ammo because I buy 22 target ammo in lots of 5000 and 9mm and 556 Ammo in lots of 1000 because I and my family shoot 10-20,000 rounds a year
    And what would be a legitimate purpose for owning a weapon "like that"

    I checked the Smith and Wesson website and it said the weapon was for "tactical purposes"

    And you're completely ignoring the issue. You and your family have a history of safely owning guns and safely using guns (I'm assuming you've owned and used them safely). Here's a guy who suddenly starts stockpiling ammunition and is calling around making suspicious calls to owners of shooting ranges. Or at least one of them. We have a system that allows any old crazy person to methodically plan and execute a deadly assault without any oversight whatsoever. He ordered them off of the internet! A felon could easily obtain anything Holmes had by simply having a friend fill out the order form. That's a horrible system. And you protect the sales of semi-automatic assault weapons for what purpose? "Tactical" purposes?
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Americans have bought millions of guns -often in reaction to clinton and Obama. yet the crime rate has gone down despite the fact that most states now allow CCW permits. Sarah Brady and other scum claimed that the CCW licenses would lead to blood in the streets-a silly prediction that now has become a bald faced lie. She and other scum claimed that the sunset of the clinton gun ban would cause tons of deaths-again not true.

    so the laws seem to be working. Less accidental shootings and intentional killings even with 20 million or more guns in private hands

    I suspect you really don't have a proposed solution-you just FEEL that SOMETHING has to be done
    Have you ever considered how the hateful rhetoric in your posts may hinder support for your position?

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