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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    No firearm, no injury by firearm. It really is that simple.
    Yep. No brain, no headache. Making THINGS illegal, like recreational drugs, does not make them disappear, just raises their price and puts criminal gangs in charge of their distribution. It may make many more law abiding citizens into unarmed crime victims, pack the jails full of "posession" violators, embolden the criminals and decrease the legal use (thus tens of thousands of jobs) a lot.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Perhaps we need a national discussion in this nation as to what constitutes "arms" as in "the right to keep and bear arms"?

    Yeah - I know - now is not the time and neither is later the right time.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep. No brain, no headache. Making THINGS illegal, like recreational drugs, does not make them disappear, just raises their price and puts criminal gangs in charge of their distribution. It may make many more law abiding citizens into unarmed crime victims, pack the jails full of "posession" violators, embolden the criminals and decrease the legal use (thus tens of thousands of jobs) a lot.
    Another one who wants to take a simple statement and attach a different meaning for the purpose of it was presented...

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There was no strawman.
    The entire implication that I don't think that there could be additional problems from increased drug usage is a strawman. My argument never suggested it wouldn't, only that judging its worth based simply on that and not the NET effect is short sited.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps we need a national discussion in this nation as to what constitutes "arms" as in "the right to keep and bear arms"?

    Yeah - I know - now is not the time and neither is later the right time.
    Why? It won't solve jack

    When a person is determined to kill, maim, or otherwise harm a bunch of people

    There's nothing you can do about it

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So does your theory about gun prices soaring but still easily available work in a nation like Japan?
    Island nations with NO mnority population groups or major gang influence have lower CRIME in all categories. People in Japan SEE and REPORT crime, unlike Chicago, where murders occur in front of many "witnesses" that saw nothing, heard nothing and spoke of nothing. Your "theory" can be tested by comparing the recreational drug use, that is banned in both the USA and Japan.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Island nations with NO mnority population groups or major gang influence have lower CRIME in all categories. People in Japan SEE and REPORT crime, unlike Chicago, where murders occur in front of many "witnesses" that saw nothing, heard nothing and spoke of nothing. Your "theory" can be tested by comparing the recreational drug use, that is banned in both the USA and Japan.
    I don't like where you're going with the whole minority population thing; the shooter in this incident was white, after all. However, you raise a highly underrated point about the reporting of crimes. A major factor contributing to violent crime in impoverished neighborhoods is that gangs terrorize many people from taking the witness stand. Thus, the thugs have a lot of impunity. And what is the fuel for gang-related activity? Illegal drugs.

    It seems to me that if we decriminalized and then regulated drugs, we could crash the drug black market, starving gangs of their power. There'd be far less desire to burglarize a home if a drug costs $50 per ounce than if it cost $1000 per ounce.
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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    No firearm, no injury by firearm. It really is that simple.
    No cars. No injury or death by cars. It really is that simple.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Island nations with NO mnority population groups or major gang influence have lower CRIME in all categories. People in Japan SEE and REPORT crime, unlike Chicago, where murders occur in front of many "witnesses" that saw nothing, heard nothing and spoke of nothing. Your "theory" can be tested by comparing the recreational drug use, that is banned in both the USA and Japan.
    Are you advocating we use explosives to break up continents into islands? If not, your post is nonsensical. if so, your post is still nonsensical.

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    Re: Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    No cars. No injury or death by cars. It really is that simple.
    If you were exclusively discussing injuries by vehicles as I was about injuries by firearms then you are correct.

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